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    Kepler-based Nvidia Quadro cards

    Has anyone heard anything about new Nvidia Quadro cards? I think a Kepler-based Quadro card will emerge at some point in the next few months, but I can't find any rumours:

    https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourc...bih=689&ix=teb

    VR-Zone dates as Q1 this fiscal year (2012-13). Lenzfire interprets that as May-July, but I thought the first fiscal quarter was April-June.

    http://lenzfire.com/2012/01/nvidia-k...-launch-24901/
    http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-k...nly/14538.html

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    Re: Kepler-based Nvidia Quadro cards

    The 680 is apparently not the highest end Kepler, so until they release the true high-end chip there won't be a quadro.

    Anandtech states that their high end GPUs are normally MUCH bigger, this was tiny (53% smaller!) than the 580 GPU, and they use the highest end chips for quadro (although the size difference might not mean anything as the lower fabrication process reduces density anyway)

    But it makes me wonder about the numbering, if this isn't the highest end part why call it the x80 ? Maybe they're doing a 685 or something *shrug*

    Anywho there is also the possibility that quadro will be a custom GPU this time round - traditionally they're just the desktop GPUs with custom firmware to enable workstation-specific capabilities, but it seems with kepler they focused more on gaming performance so might have reduced some of it's workstation capabilities...but it's a pretty weak theory as it means they have to manufacture a seperate line of GPUs

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    Re: Kepler-based Nvidia Quadro cards

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnah View Post
    The 680 is apparently not the highest end Kepler, so until they release the true high-end chip there won't be a quadro.

    Anandtech states that their high end GPUs are normally MUCH bigger, this was tiny (53% smaller!) than the 580 GPU, and they use the highest end chips for quadro (although the size difference might not mean anything as the lower fabrication process reduces density anyway)

    But it makes me wonder about the numbering, if this isn't the highest end part why call it the x80 ? Maybe they're doing a 685 or something *shrug*

    Anywho there is also the possibility that quadro will be a custom GPU this time round - traditionally they're just the desktop GPUs with custom firmware to enable workstation-specific capabilities, but it seems with kepler they focused more on gaming performance so might have reduced some of it's workstation capabilities...but it's a pretty weak theory as it means they have to manufacture a seperate line of GPUs
    680 is the highest consumer kepler GPU, but even if it wasn't, that wouldn't have any bearing on quadro/tessla releases, as they release across the range, not just a high end part. There are rumours of a 'big kepler' professional only chip as well.

    What anandtech mean by high end chips going into workstation cards is that the highest quality chips go in. Just have a look at the existing line up and you can find many professional versions of cards based on low end nVidia and AMD GPUs. But the components are the highest quality, and the software/firmware is of the highest level of compatibility and run without artificial limitations on DP float performance for example.

    If yields on the 'big kepler' (GK100) were too bad for it to make a viable consumer part, they could still be harvesting the few good chips that come out and use them for workstation only releases, where the much higher selling prices would help to offset the loss of so many potential chips (which before now they didn't have to pay for, but they do these days). That means they wouldn't have had to design a whole chip from scratch just for workstation cards.

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    Re: Kepler-based Nvidia Quadro cards

    Sorry I didn't word my post very well, had a fair few too many painkillers so didn't really explain myself properly ha.

    What I meant is that Quadro versions tend to not be released until the highest end desktop part is out, and it seems like a 685 is in the works, but TSMC is having trouble with yields.

    Although it is true about the software/firmware, the chips themselves are no different to the desktop parts, they're not specially selected, just their double-precision maths engines are fully enabled and..some other stuff I don't understand haha.

    But yeah I reckon once the 685 comes out and TSMC increase yields then we'll see a Quadro part...although they make more money off workstation parts I reckon those sort of users aren't as quick off the mark in buying new kit, especially if it's not been thoroughly benchmarked for their purposes...but again, I'm not sure just having fun with theories

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