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    Hi - well when I say horrendous - it is enough to make me not want to play, some people may find it annoying but not game breaking.


    I's like I cam move along a road then I will get a slight hiccup almost like it is loading a new area also when the game first loads, if I pan round slowly using the 360 controller, it stutters terrible until I have made my first pass - then it settles down to a minor stutter every so often - however I cannot stay in the same spot all the time in SKYRIM, something is very wrong.

    Please any advice would be awesome.

    I have NO mods, not even HD textures, and it is exactly the same in medium settings.

    I have fast storage (2xCorsair Force GT RAID-0) 8GB RAM - FAST CPU - and ofc 2x680 SLi with 304.79 drivers, it was the same with 304.48 just to clarify.

    I have tried borderless window anbd messing with control panel and ofc default settings - always the same.

    I have BF3 installed and that runs FLAWLESSLY and I am VERY sensitive to micro stutters so when I say flawlessly I mean it - not a tiny stutter in sight in ANY situation - right after I first load bf3 I can pan around 360 with the controller and it is FLAWLESS and thats how it stays until I exit the game - so its NOT my system.


    I play at 1080p and I always use standard in game vsync on force it if the game has none.

    I have tried single GPU mode also, same.

    Battlefiled 3 - FLAWLESS. (Once I added gametime.maxvariablefps 60)
    Borderlands - FLAWLESS.
    Fallout 3 - FLAWLESS. (Once I changed iFPSClamp to 60)
    SKYRIM - MESS.
    Witcher 2 - MESS.

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    It is so frustrating because I adore SKYRIM & The Witcher 2 and really want to play them both.


    MANY thanks for any advice.
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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Society's to blame,
    Or possibly Atari.

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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Can I ask what CPU do you have? Just trying to rule out if it is causing the performance hit. Trying to think of what could be causing it, but as you mentioned the stuttering is also on the Witcher.

    Also, have you got vsync on or off? Same for the adaptive vsync from Nvidia.
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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    laaaaaj - not really related my big man.

    Quote Originally Posted by dragossk View Post
    Can I ask what CPU do you have? Just trying to rule out if it is causing the performance hit. Trying to think of what could be causing it, but as you mentioned the stuttering is also on the Witcher.

    Also, have you got vsync on or off? Same for the adaptive vsync from Nvidia.
    VSYNC ALWAYS ON and ON STANDARD in everygame - I did not buy 2 680's to get less than 60FPS. (however SKYRIM FORCES VSYNC on anyway.)

    There is no performance hit mate, its a stutter unrelated to FPS, and my CPU is in my system specs, under my name, but it is an i5 3570K@ 4.5Ghz.
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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Should be noted that the current drivers are beta ones so might be worth trying some WHQL as well? Do you have a different SLI bridge you could try, also try reseating the bridge. Make sure in the driver control panel you have v-sync set to on/application controlled and NOT Adaptive.

    The Witcher 2 stutters inherently as well (well knwon problem of the game), with the only way to really combat it is by forcing 30FPS.
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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    Should be noted that the current drivers are beta ones so might be worth trying some WHQL as well? Do you have a different SLI bridge you could try, also try reseating the bridge. Make sure in the driver control panel you have v-sync set to on/application controlled and NOT Adaptive.

    The Witcher 2 stutters inherently as well (well knwon problem of the game), with the only way to really combat it is by forcing 30FPS.
    Thanks very much mate, however would my other games run so well if it was a problem with my SLi bridge?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    The Witcher 2 stutters inherently as well (well knwon problem of the game), with the only way to really combat it is by forcing 30FPS.
    I'd rather gouge my eyes out <language> - on webcam.
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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Quote Originally Posted by ArCElM View Post
    Thanks very much mate, however would my other games run so well if it was a problem with my SLi bridge?
    Just worth considering. Obviously there is a known issue with the GTX 6xx and stuttering, I've only had it happen to me once on release, but when i had GTX 460's in SLI I had a dodgy SLI bridge that only threw up problems in certain scenarios. Yours is probably fine (by the sounds of it) but just take it off and put it back on and make sure its completely firm.
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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Skyrim I found used to stutter if their was too little load on my AMD card, it was like it was rendering too many frames and stuttered when trying to sync - a driver update cured that completely so hopefully they'll sort that in software soon. Otherwise trying to extra GPU work might help - definitely run one GPU for Skyrim, try some graphical mods etc. and run as much IQ enhancement as you can - you could probably manage SSAA or whatever the nVidia equivalent is (OGSSAA?)

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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    A fix for this would be turning VSync off in the Nvidia control panel and in the game. You can put VSync off in Witcher 2 manually, to put it off for Skyrim, go in Users\XXXXX\Documents\My Games\Skyrim and add 'iPresentInterval=0' to the bottom of the 'Display' section in the ini file. Aside from that, all you can do it sit tight for the new Nvidia drivers.

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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Just had a go at playing Skyrim after a while (before I upgraded). I was going to try see if I had any stutter.

    Seems to change the ini file every time it updates. Haven't been able to get rid of the vsync as it is stuck at 60 FPS. Either the iPresentInterval stopped working or I need to delete either ini file and generate them again.

    Maybe do a quick verify the integrity of the files on steam...starting to run out of ideas...

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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Hi ArCElM,

    Seems odd as I have a very similar setup to yours other than I'm running a 3960X at 4.6ghz which I would expect to give very similar performance to your i5 3570K@ 4.5Ghz.

    I'm running a new, clean install of Windows 7 on a 120GB SSD. Skyrim is installed on one of my 512GB SSD's. I have installed the Nvidia 304.79 drivers and the only changes I have made are to global settings to force prefer maximum performance and single display performance mode (although I don't think this would affect it anyway). Under the Skyrim profile I have everything set to normal except I have asked for Quality Ambient Occlusion (although this only seems to work inside).

    The Skyrim launcher set everything to Ultra for me.

    I also run a whole load of texture replacer mods and various gameplay tweaks which run through nexus Mod manager and use the SKSE launcher. I have also set UGridsToLoad=7 in the Skyrim.ini. I also followed through a lot of the Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPref.ini tweaks on the GeForce website.

    http://www.geforce.com/optimize/guid...m-tweak-guide/

    I've found the gameplay to be remarkably smooth. There is maybe a ½ second pause upon entering a new area / cell but anything after then is pretty much perfect for me. I have read about a lot of people having stuttering issues in this and in Diablo 3 but I have found both to be remarkably stutter free so far.

    Other than a new install of Windows and fully updating it, new install of the GeForce Beta drivers and updating DirectX I really haven't done a lot.

    Have you tried starting a new game to see if the stuttering is still just as bad?

    You could also try the Unofficial patch on DarkCreations website to see if that helps at all.

    Might be worth deleting and reinstalling the game if you have the time too.

    If you require me to go through any more of my settings or mods I'm happy to do so.

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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    That backs up my suggestion of putting extra load on the GPU - mods and upping ugrids will do that.

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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    I can't use the new nvidia 30x series of drivers on my 580 at all - it kills skyrim (1-5 fps feel). Going back to the < 300 series drivers resolves it, instantly.
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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    That backs up my suggestion of putting extra load on the GPU - mods and upping ugrids will do that.
    I guess at this point it wouldn't hurt to add a few on. However I did play through Helgen at the start of the game without any mods at all and it ran fine too. I was just pleased to see that adding a whole load of mods didn't actually have any effect when it came to noticeable in-game performance. I do play with the game v-sync set to on though so I imagine I'm just not, or very rarely, hitting much below 60fps.

    I see that both dangle and ArCElM are running RAID 0 setups. I would have thought that this would have improved the world loading speed but I wonder if there is any chance that Skyrim just doesn't like RAID setups??? As I said, I run off a standalone 512GB Crucial M4 and have very few stutter at all - just a very slight hiccup when transitioning cells / areas which then plays absolutely smoothly thereafter.

    It certainly seems to me as though both have a PC powerful enough to run the game with the same experience that I am getting. It must come down to individual setups which is why I figured re-installing Skyrim from scratch might improve things. Or possibly deleting the Skyrim.ini & SkyrimPrefs.ini. Sometimes if these have been fiddled with they can cause big issues. Also even if you're not running any mods now but have been in the past any old scripts can get stuck in an existing savegame file which is why starting a brand new character is useful to see if the same problems still occur.

    Hope you both get it sorted anyway. At least it sounds as though dangel has a set of drivers that work fine for him. I'm not sure that the GTX 680's are supported on the pre 300 series drivers although it might be worth giving them a go.

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    Re: Horrendous stuttering in SKYRIM on 680s

    I've been running RAID 0 for a long time (both SSD and mechanical) and i'm very sure it's not an issue with loading times. The fact I can roll back drivers and get things butter smooth (i'm overclocked and my framerates are very high indeed in skyrim normally) kinda points towards the new driver as the issue. From what i've read i'm not the only one with this problem - and I haven't (tbh) been patient enough to wipe it all and start over to check if it's some mod or other thing on my system causing the issue. I would like to move on (adaptive vsync makes it desirable).
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