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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/t...-660-ti-review

    Thought i'd add in particular because they make a point of using the Catalyst 12.7b drivers, mention that the 12.8 drivers are about and use a 7950 Boost as well as a vanilla 7950.

    And:
    http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html
    Is also a very nice review, including comparison with 7950s and particularly at 1080p.

    IMO: Factory OC'd 7950s are still in there, but i think the more i see and read, the more i'm edging toward a well FOC'd 660 Ti.
    Gigabyte or Zotac i reckon atm.
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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Thanks Fjo.

    Have updated the OP.

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Added some more reviews.

    For people who play Skyrim with mods this is interesting:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...660-ti%2F24%2F

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Check out that legitreviews review. 3 overclocked 660 Ti's lose 3/4 benchmarks to a stock 7870. This card can't handle AA at all, it totally chokes.

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    I was reading the Anandtech review and noticed they said the following:

    "The best case scenario is always going to be that the entire 192bit bus is in use by interleaving a memory operation across all 3 controllers, giving the card 144GB/sec of memory bandwidth (192bit * 6GHz / 8). But that can only be done at up to 1.5GB of memory; the final 512MB of memory is attached to a single memory controller. This invokes the worst case scenario, where only 1 64-bit memory controller is in use and thereby reducing memory bandwidth to a much more modest 48GB/sec."

    Maybe the 3GB cards seem a better bet,if you are getting a GTX660TI?? However,that pushes the price closer to a GTX670.

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    I don't actually think so.
    It looks to be here, under "Memory Malarkey":
    http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...-ti-ex-oc-3gb/
    "Getting a double-sized 3GB of memory on to a 192-bit-wide bus is fairly simple and has been done before. NVIDIA uses 12 256MB chips and connects each one in 16-bit mode, rather than the usual 32-bit. Each 64-bit memory-controller segment then uses four chips for its part of the overall framebuffer."

    Unless i'm just completely lost, that suggests that if the methodology used by Nvidia is what Anandtech and Hexus both think it is, then the 3GB card could be crippled further than the 2GB model by the same problem. The only way to counter (but only by a little) would be to overclock the memory.

    Judging by the reviews though, both for the 2GB and 3GB models, whatever way Nvidia's done it doesn't seem to have ruined the output. Still, the lead a 670 holds over the 660's is going to be caused by that lowered bus one way or another. If you're ok with that hit for ~£50-70 savings, then it's all good anyway.

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fjo View Post
    IMO: Factory OC'd 7950s are still in there, but i think the more i see and read, the more i'm edging toward a well FOC'd 660 Ti.
    Gigabyte or Zotac i reckon atm.
    I think the overclocked GTX660TI cards are pointless TBH especially with the gimped memory bus which in the long term is not a good bet IMHO for around £240 to £270.

    I am getting a serious 8800GT 256MB vibe with this card.

    The ones with 1GHZ core are around £260 to £270 which is only £20 to £30 less than a GTX670 which can be had for £280 to £290. In the US the cards are much cheaper relative to the others - more price gouging in the UK.

    The price difference is not massive compared to the GTX670,and you forget the HD7950 3GB is underclocked anyway:

    http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7950/

    519 cards submitted with a 1166MHZ average overclock. Even a crappy HD7950 will hit 1GHZ at least.

    If you don't want to overclock,a cheap GTX670 makes more sense IMHO and if you do I consider the HD7950 a better choice than a GTX660 if you get one for under £250(although the same can be said to a lesser degree about overclocking the GTX670). Considering that there is meant to be a price cut on the HD7950 soon,it looks to be a more balanced choice IMHO. Also most of the HD7950 3GB cards are going to start shipping with the core boost BIOS anyway(you can apply it to older reference cards too).
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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    OP updated.

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    That averages and comparisons article's great. Exactly what i've been hoping someone would do, having spent last night and today trawling through reviews. Nice one.

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Think the 660 will need to drop to the £200 mark to compete

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Well, in theory it will because they are going to release the 660 (not the lack of ti) which will be a gimped version of the 660 ti.

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dcwt2010 View Post
    Well, in theory it will because they are going to release the 660 (not the lack of ti) which will be a gimped version of the 660 ti.
    Oops meant to type 660ti

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Added some more reviews.

    For people who play Skyrim with mods this is interesting:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...660-ti%2F24%2F
    That's really interesting looks like the added memory and memory bandwidth really help in Skyrim with mods.

    Food for thought for me...

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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Yep card 'appears' horribly gimped in surround-1440p+.

    If you like AA_AF (FXAA doesn't count...) and think 1080p is low res then 670-7950 or better. Filling the VRAM in the 660 appears to be a bad idea 3GB models may be a work around but we shall see.

    The 660 is pretty much for 1080p only (it's the largest used res' now so it's not like it's a huge issue for many gamers) But anything more than 1080p look hard at 7950-670 or better (if you want HD texture packs and mods etc) ....

    Seems so far over 1.5GB VRAM usage 660 does choke in a way the 670-7950 or better don't.
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    Re: GTX660TI review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I think the overclocked GTX660TI cards are pointless TBH especially with the gimped memory bus which in the long term is not a good bet IMHO for around £240 to £270.

    I am getting a serious 8800GT 256MB vibe with this card.

    The ones with 1GHZ core are around £260 to £270 which is only £20 to £30 less than a GTX670 which can be had for £280 to £290. In the US the cards are much cheaper relative to the others - more price gouging in the UK.

    The price difference is not massive compared to the GTX670,and you forget the HD7950 3GB is underclocked anyway:

    http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7950/

    519 cards submitted with a 1166MHZ average overclock. Even a crappy HD7950 will hit 1GHZ at least.

    If you don't want to overclock,a cheap GTX670 makes more sense IMHO and if you do I consider the HD7950 a better choice than a GTX660 if you get one for under £250(although the same can be said to a lesser degree about overclocking the GTX670). Considering that there is meant to be a price cut on the HD7950 soon,it looks to be a more balanced choice IMHO. Also most of the HD7950 3GB cards are going to start shipping with the core boost BIOS anyway(you can apply it to older reference cards too).
    I agree, if you know what your doing with gaming and want to really push the more complex engines and retain FPS 7950-670 or better. 660 is for certain OEMS to put in rigs with bad cooling and tiny PSUs and give nice FPS for people who have no idea what AA_AF is and would not download a 'mod' or 'HD texture pack ever'. It's basically the 'Noobs' kepler. People who need a PC for gaming and by Gaming mean 'Angry Birds!'.

    Want Pew Pew FPS ? Buy 660 Ti SLi, want HD displays, Image IQ, smooth 3D, triple screens? Ignore this card buy 7950-670 etc.

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