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    9700Pro works in one PC but not another?

    My friend restarted his computer and found that it would not POST. He did nothing prior to this except plugging in a different monitor whilst Windows was running and changing the resolution.

    Removing the 9700 Pro and inserting another card (in this case a GF4 MX440) causes the PC to boot normally.

    Originally I thought the card itself was shafted but plugging it into another PC proves this theory wrong.

    The specs of his PC are:

    Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe
    AthlonXP 2500+
    1GB Crucial PC2700
    Sapphire Radeon 9700Pro 128MB


    The PC that the card works in has a Gigabyte mobo with a VIA chipset, AthlonXP 1800+, etc.


    Does anyone have any idea why the card won't work in this, but will in another PC?

    We've tried everything... Resetting the CMOS, turning off AGP8x and Fastwrites, different power connectors, unplugging power to everything, etc.

    Help is greatly appreciated
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    Unfortunately a silent flaw (eg unacknowledged by ATi) is that the inital power draw on the 9700 series (in particular the AIW) was so high that it trips the overvoltage protection on some (even good) PSUs. Only way to fix it is by having a relay switch in series on a molex connector or find another home for it.

    Sorry.
    Last edited by pre; 21-08-2004 at 07:09 PM.

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    I haven't heard about this before
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    Geforce 4 MX - AGP 4x 1.5V, 9700 - 8x AGP 0.85V.

    Perhaps the problem lies in the voltage regulation circuitry on the mobo not being able to operate the card for some reason...

    That's pure speculation. Maybe try an AGP 8x card in the computer to verify this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pre
    Unfortunately a silent flaw (eg unacknowledged by ATi) is that the inital power draw on the 9700 series (in particular the AIW) was so high that it trips the overvoltage protection on some (even good) PSUs.
    that problem is actually worse with good PSUs as their protection is more likely to trip ...

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    • Howard's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P5B
      • CPU:
      • Core2Duo E6420 2.13GHz
      • Memory:
      • 2x1gb OCZ DDR2 6400
      • Storage:
      • 250GB & 500GB Seagate
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Inno3d iChill 7900GS
      • PSU:
      • Antec SmartPower 500W
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster Elite 330
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2x AG Neovo F419
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media 20mbit
    Hmm... He's replaced it now with an X800 Pro and it works fine.

    Thing is his clock loses a few minutes of time now. Could his old Qtec PSU somehow have damaged the motherboard in any way?
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    PC: Asus P5B | Core2duo 2.13GHz | 2GB DDR2 PC6400 | Inno3d iChill 7900GS | Auzentech X-Plosion 7.1 | 250GB | 500GB | NEC DVDRW | Dual AG Neovo 19"
    HTPC: | Core2Duo E6420 2.13GHz | 2GB DDR2 | 250GBx2 | Radeon X1300 | Terratec Aureon 7.1 | Windows MCE 2005
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    • malfunction's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte G1.Sniper (with daft heatsinks and annoying Killer NIC)
      • CPU:
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    Try replacing the CMOS battery (for the clock - nothing to do with the 9700 not booting). And if he was using a QTEC PSU then I'm fairly sure that would be to blame (for a start the 2500+ will be drawing more current than the 1800+ which probably pushed it over the edge).

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