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    Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    Obviously AMD have a lot invested in GPUs and i dont expect a total death.

    They do seem very keen on pushing this idea, i imagine the new microsoft console will be featuring it.

    Is it conceivable that within the next five years, it will no longer be required to have a modern gpu to run modern games?

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    As long as we have latency, no.
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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    I have enough trouble streaming tv in HD during peak times on my so called 'broadband', I can't imagine what HD gaming would be like...

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    It could do depending on the resolution and frame rate your playing at, and the speed of your network of course.

    I don't think it would happen anytime soon. 8k UHD is 33 megapixel at 60fps thats a shed load of data to move.

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    I don't think it would happen anytime soon. 8k UHD is 33 megapixel at 60fps thats a shed load of data to move.
    If uncompressed...

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    And then you have to deal with compressed video latency somehow.

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    And then you have to deal with compressed video latency somehow.
    That's what dedicated hardware decoders/move engines are for.

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    What like a GPU?

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    What like a GPU?
    More likely as part of the CPU/APU. Much smaller hardware budget locally for that than doing rendering locally though. GPUs might also have hardware decoders, but it's a tiny portion of the silicon.

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    Well I'm not sure what tiny piece of silicon could be used to solve the problem but for me bandwidth is the issue unless you can find a way to decompress huge amounts of data at a tiny overhead. All I could see happening is you replacing one type of dedicated hardware for another.

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    Well I'm not sure what tiny piece of silicon could be used to solve the problem but for me bandwidth is the issue unless you can find a way to decompress huge amounts of data at a tiny overhead. All I could see happening is you replacing one type of dedicated hardware for another.
    Well the problem with GPUs is they're not fixed function hardware, they have to be very flexible and you have a lot of transistors. On the other hand fixed function decoders can be very small and efficient (even the raspberry pi has one). You pay the transistor cost on the server end no doubt, but you can argue that it's better spent there than replicated in each machine regardless of how much it's being used.

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    Yeah, I can see a middle ground that could be beneficial over some connections, a few megapixels over a short distance say, but I can't see a high spec GPU being out performed over a long distance connection or at high resolutions.

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    Go try Onlive. See the benefits and the problems in action.

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    Well I can't see it being the case for the majority of pc gamers for quite a long time yet. We're a fussy bunch so we'll need to next to 0 latency 100% of the time on our connections first. And even then, while it will vary from person to person, there will be a load of us who will still not use it unless we can run the games at the highest settings with 120 fps, maybe more. And even then, still no lol.... The infrastructure is going to need to mature a hell of a lot before it becomes common place, or even completely replaces graphics card. But this is just my view for pc gaming..

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    Re: Will AMDs cloud based model kill the graphics card?

    Isn't Onlive limited to 720p? That's pretty hideous on a 1080p (or higher) monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spl View Post
    Isn't Onlive limited to 720p? That's pretty hideous on a 1080p (or higher) monitor.
    Was last time I used it. I hated the whole experience. Severe input lag, crappy frame rate, crappy graphics settings, crappy resolution. I don't have fibre optic internet connection, but it's decent. Guess it just wouldn't cut it for Onlive. If that's the case then services like that really need to wait for internet connections to catch up. Gonna be a while yet...

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