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    Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    I've got a PC I built over 4 years ago now, so it's showing its age:

    Quad-core 3GHz Intel CPU
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    I'm getting more and more weird crashes and freezes, most recently with green/purple pixels filling the screen, so clearly this card is near death.

    I realise that the smart money buys a 660 Ti these days, or better if you can afford it. However, I don't really want to spend that much money on a temporary solution. I'd like to buy a complete new system in about a year's time, and I don't want the hassle of building it and working on the soundproofing I want, so I thought I'd invest in a silent system from Scan or somewhere like that. When I do, I'll get it with a good 700 (or 800?) series card, so there's no need for anything crazy today.

    I've seen 650 Ti cards for £79. The Boost edition is considerably more, in the £110-130 area.

    Do you think the 650 Ti is a good replacement for my GTX 280, or would you recommend a different card?
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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    doing some cross-review comparisons, the 650 Ti should be about the same performance as the GTX280, maybe a little faster. However, I'm not sure where you've seen the 650 Ti for < £80 - the best price I can find is nearer £90. Don't mistake the 650 Ti for the plain 650, which is a *much* slower card. The Ti Boost, on the other hand, is a significantly faster card.

    If it was me doing this, I'd probably look at getting a higher end card with a very quiet cooler (most reviews have noise testing) to carry over to my new build. You could still get a pre-built, silenced machine from Scan, without discrete graphics: just make sure you select the new card carefully so it's not going to add significant noise to the new build. That way you don't spend £100 now that will essentially be wasted in a year.

    However, if you're set on getting the complete rebuild from scratch and just having an interim card for now, you'd do well to consider the Radeon 7790: faster than a GTX 650 Ti in pretty much every situation, and currently only £95 at ebuyer: http://www.ebuyer.com/490665-his-hd-...card-h779ft1gd - and that's a factory overclocked version, too

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    Thanks a lot!

    The supplier's taken the listing down now, but earlier a seller called Kryotech Ltd was doing the PNY 650 Ti XLR8 for £79 on eBay UK. There's another seller for the 650 Ti at £79 + £10 postage, but I'll check out this 7790 and see how it stacks up before I jump in.

    At this point, my main worry is that the crashes happen the moment I get past the menu screen of any 3D game. It's fine in 2D for the time being, and I don't often play games anyway since this is mainly a music/design machine, but I can't risk the whole thing falling out of commission for however long it takes to receive a replacement card should the device die completely. A stitch in time and all that!

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    this sites pretty good at looking at the differences.

    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-...eForce-GTX-280

    I hope this helps

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    I'd be wary of anyone selling the 650 Ti for that much below the price from standard etailers, to be honest. I've only found a couple at £90 at ebuyer: scan don't do a 650 Ti for less than £100. At ebuyer orders over £50 get free shipping, so buying this one: http://www.ebuyer.com/434576-gainwar...426018336-2814 would be about the same total cost but give you the backing of a much larger, reputable etailer. Personally I'd go for the 7790 though

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    7790 recommendation here too, it's the best card under £100.

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee @ SCAN View Post
    this sites pretty good at looking at the differences.

    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-...eForce-GTX-280

    I hope this helps
    Thanks, I've tried that site before. It seems to be a bit wild though - they link to Techreport reviews, and sometimes the results they get are totally unlike the benchmarks I see on other sites for the same games/resolutions? Also it gets a bit confusing when comparing a DX10 card (effectively DX9, since DX10 was so badly supported by the games industry) and a DX11 one in terms of the experience.

    Do you find it to be pretty reliable?

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    Thank you Teppic!

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee @ SCAN View Post
    this sites pretty good at looking at the differences.

    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-...eForce-GTX-280

    I hope this helps
    Blarg

    Unless it actually shows in game measurements, it's of limited use.
    Like CPU boss, they just compare raw manufacturer numbers, which aren't overly useful for direct comparisons.
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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    Anandtech's 285 vs 650Ti - Clicky

    and the 7790 vs the 650Ti - Clicky

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    Used nVidia GeForce GTX 580 have been selling on eBay for around £100 or so recently and it will probably outpace any new card you could buy for the same or similar money. Food for thought

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spreadie View Post
    Anandtech's 285 vs 650Ti - Clicky

    and the 7790 vs the 650Ti - Clicky
    Wow, didn't expect the 650 Ti to be that far ahead of a 285 in any games: obviously there are a few game engines that just love Kepler

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    anandtech bench tends to underestimate 7000 GPUs a lot as they're taken at reference clocks, which are really low compared to similar nvidia cards, and retail cards are almost always factory clocked higher.

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    I can only apologise to those of you who tried to steer me away from the GTX 650 Ti. I found another one for £79 earlier and snapped it up. It was the CUDA/Photoshop hook in the end. I realise the 7790 has better FPS in every game they test, but I'm stuck in my Nvidia ways. Every tenner I can save is really important right now, so while you might think I'm nuts to not just spend the extra £20-30 to get something significantly better, I'm happy enough to get something pretty cheap that keeps my computer working and does a decent job of rendering games.

    Thanks very much to you all for your help!

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    Quote Originally Posted by Otherhand View Post
    I can only apologise to those of you who tried to steer me away from the GTX 650 Ti. I found another one for £79 earlier and snapped it up. It was the CUDA/Photoshop hook in the end. I realise the 7790 has better FPS in every game they test, but I'm stuck in my Nvidia ways. Every tenner I can save is really important right now, so while you might think I'm nuts to not just spend the extra £20-30 to get something significantly better, I'm happy enough to get something pretty cheap that keeps my computer working and does a decent job of rendering games.

    Thanks very much to you all for your help!

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    You do realise Adobe CS is now moving to OpenCL,and OpenCL runs better on the AMD graphics cards ATM??

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    Re: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti as a stepping stone from a GTX 280?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    You do realise Adobe CS is now moving to OpenCL,and OpenCL runs better on the AMD graphics cards ATM??
    What? Ahhhh no!

    The last I heard, there were all kinds of problems with Catalyst drivers for that?

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