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    Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Looking for a modern GPU, something around the power of a 760GTX (preferably nVidia, although not required) that has two analogue outputs.

    Don't mind if it's a D-sub + DVI-I, or two DVI-I ports...whatever...I just can't find anything with 2 of the outputs I want on.

    Anyone seen anything?
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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    I'm confused - most of the 760s have 2 x DVI ports?

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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Butuz View Post
    I'm confused - most of the 760s have 2 x DVI ports?

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    But only one of them is analogue (+digital). The other is DVI-D only.

    Presumably it's cheaper to only have one DAC chip/circuitry.

    I have an HD4870 kicking around that has two DVI-Is. Some 7870s (eg XFX 7870 DD) seem to have two (as far as the connector is concerned at least) but you probably need to check edition as revisions might have removed it.

    edit: hmm looks like connector only in the case of the xfx, not actually the circuitry
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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    I don't know if there are any in that power range. You'll probably have to make do with the DVI-I->D-Sub adapter and an active DVI-D/HDMI/DP to D-Sub signal converter.
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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Display port to VGA is the obvious solution.

    Probably a better shelf life than DVI-D to VGA.

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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    What's annoying with any converter is that I'll need to shell out quite a bit for one, as it needs to support 2048x1152 and not just 1080.

    A pretty specific situation I know, but it's why I was hoping for a card with 2 outputs built in

    edit - I can't even find one that states it'll do above 1080
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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    That shouldn't be special, I think my Samsung monitor uses single link DVI to get that resolution.

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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    You wouldn't think so, but the converters I've seen so far, even active ones specially state that they max at 1080.
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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    Don't mind if it's a D-sub + DVI-I, or two DVI-I ports...whatever...I just can't find anything with 2 of the outputs I want on.

    Anyone seen anything?
    This XFX 280X appears to have 2 DVI-I ports, but I don't know what resolution they're rated up to...

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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Found one, price will make your eyes water though, ROG 760X2, States 2 X DVI-I in the setup.

    Code: ROG MARS760-4GD5

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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    You wouldn't think so, but the converters I've seen so far, even active ones specially state that they max at 1080.
    Probably just not tested at such a funky resolution.

    Sadly I only have DP to DVI-D, so can't test it for you. Also I think it would *have* to be an active converter, passive only gets you conversions that the video card does the heavy lifting for like DP+ to hdmi.

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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    What's annoying with any converter is that I'll need to shell out quite a bit for one, as it needs to support 2048x1152 and not just 1080.
    Ah, yeah.... That just makes it even worse. In all honesty, though, VGA?

    *edit* I wonder, would one of these do? http://eu.evga.com/products/moreInfo...ily=USB&uc=EUR

    I believe that might do the trick, it supports up to 2048x1152 and VGA according to the PDF spec sheet, and states that it uses a virtual driver which interoprates with your graphics card.
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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbobgod1969 View Post
    This XFX 280X appears to have 2 DVI-I ports, but I don't know what resolution they're rated up to...
    Most AMD cards still have the connectors, but lack the circuitry on the second connector it seems. The page you linked says it only has one DVI-I output (specifications tab).

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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbobgod1969 View Post
    This XFX 280X appears to have 2 DVI-I ports, but I don't know what resolution they're rated up to...
    Great spot
    I've managed to find one in stock too. It's more than I was looking to pay in all honesty, but I might stretch to it to keep things simple. I'll think on it.
    Now without trying to sound like an ungrateful sod....if only it wasn't XFX!

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Probably just not tested at such a funky resolution.

    Sadly I only have DP to DVI-D, so can't test it for you. Also I think it would *have* to be an active converter, passive only gets you conversions that the video card does the heavy lifting for like DP+ to hdmi.
    I've tested one from work - the problem is that the input chip that deals with the HDMI / DVI side of things simply doesn't have the bandwidth to take in anything higher than 1080p @ 60Hz. Some do, apparently, but they need to specifically state it, or be lucky.
    I've only tried the one though, so I can't speak for all. It's assumption on my part largely, but I think it's a safe bet most of these are churned out from the same factory in China.

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Ah, yeah.... That just makes it even worse. In all honesty, though, VGA?

    *edit* I wonder, would one of these do? http://eu.evga.com/products/moreInfo...ily=USB&uc=EUR

    I believe that might do the trick, it supports up to 2048x1152 and VGA according to the PDF spec sheet, and states that it uses a virtual driver which interoprates with your graphics card.
    Good cables can give you some insane resolutions over analogue. I deal with a lot of image content at work / part of my job, so I can be a bit of a perfectionist sometimes, but even I can't tell the difference. Honestly, it's pixel sharp. I had the same reservations before I this screen (now 2 thanks to a friend). You wouldn't believe how much those extra pixels help sometimes.

    As for the device, it's a good call, but unless I'm massively misunderstanding something, it's only really of any use for 2D based stuff. AFAIk, it uses a driver to do the work on the CPU for the screen outputs, which isn't going to help with all the 3D content I need to kick through it. Doesn't it work in the same way as a USB soundcard - offloading the work to the host?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Most AMD cards still have the connectors, but lack the circuitry on the second connector it seems. The page you linked says it only has one DVI-I output (specifications tab).

    Agent, two cheaper cards in SLI?
    Yeah, it's the same with Nv
    SLI is an option, but it's just more power, heat and I've always preferred one GPU due to the occasional issue that pops up. It's on my list of things to consider, although at this rate I'm tempted to sell both of these screens and just go with 2 1080 / 120Hz ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasp View Post
    Found one, price will make your eyes water though, ROG 760X2, States 2 X DVI-I in the setup.

    Code: ROG MARS760-4GD5

    Understatement Well out of my price range for this, but thanks

    edit - okay, after searching a lot today it's either the ROG MARS at a silly price, or something XFX based. A few AMD XFX cards have them, so it's really a case of if I trust XFX again :|
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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    If you want I can have a test later, but I'm pretty sure my 7750 will happily run two VGA monitors using DVI-VGA for the first and DP-VGA for the second. All passive adapters, nothing special.

    *EDIT* yes, I know that's not around GTX760 power, just pointing out that AFAIK any modern AMD card *should* run 2 VGA monitors fine

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    Re: Modern GPU with 2 analogue outputs?

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    *EDIT* yes, I know that's not around GTX760 power, just pointing out that AFAIK any modern AMD card *should* run 2 VGA monitors fine
    The issue is the ports. There is normally only a DVI-D and a DVI-I port on them.
    The DVI-I port can use a dongle to pull the analogue signal out. The DVI-D port has no analogue output at all, so it needs to use some 'active' method of conversion external to the card
    The design of a DVI-D port is physically different too, so you can't put a dongle in.
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