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    Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Hi everybody

    So basically I'm planning on building a PC mostly for gaming. I've almost everything chosen, but I'm facing a dilema, of the currently available graphic cards I'ld buy the Gigabyte GTX 780 GHZ Edition but from what I've read the 800 series should arrive soon...

    So when do you think a better one within the 800 series will be released and for how much?

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Hey,

    nobody does exactly know when the GTX 800 series will be released and how they'll perform. At this moment I personally would not wait, because I think that Nvidia will first release the low end / mid end graphics cards and later this year (Q4) the high end models.

    So in my opinion you just should buy whatever you want now and don't wait for some future hardware.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    nVidia have already started bringing out cards based on the new Maxwell chips, and yes this is at the lower end. The GTX750Ti cards, like this Gigabyte and this Palit are both Maxwell based GPUs and use the GM107 processors.

    The GM110 processors should be featuring some new technologies that have not been seen on a gaming graphics card as of yet, these include Dynamic Parallelism and HyperQ, which I see to remember has something to do with having an integrated Tegra CPU built in to the GPU die, so instead of getting a CPU with IGPU nVidia are releasing a GPU with ICPU, or something along those lines, but it is not very clear on when they will be doing this, traditionally this is the time of year that many new nVidia GPUs have launched though they are remaining tight lipped, as always, I guess.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Also bear in mind if you are working to a budget, new cards always demand a premium.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    by the time that 880 (or whatever its called is out) you could have been having a happy 6 months gaming. Unless you want 4k or 3 monitors or something don't worry about it.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wa1lock View Post
    Hey,

    nobody does exactly know when the GTX 800 series will be released and how they'll perform. At this moment I personally would not wait, because I think that Nvidia will first release the low end / mid end graphics cards and later this year (Q4) the high end models.

    So in my opinion you just should buy whatever you want now and don't wait for some future hardware.
    Thanks for the reply Wa1lock, just as I thought, the low/mid end first... I guess I was hopping for some kind of miracle... bugles me to know that I'm going to buy a card that will be "replaced" in less than a year or so...

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardDemon View Post
    nVidia have already started bringing out cards based on the new Maxwell chips, and yes this is at the lower end. The GTX750Ti cards, like this Gigabyte and this Palit are both Maxwell based GPUs and use the GM107 processors.

    The GM110 processors should be featuring some new technologies that have not been seen on a gaming graphics card as of yet, these include Dynamic Parallelism and HyperQ, which I see to remember has something to do with having an integrated Tegra CPU built in to the GPU die, so instead of getting a CPU with IGPU nVidia are releasing a GPU with ICPU, or something along those lines, but it is not very clear on when they will be doing this, traditionally this is the time of year that many new nVidia GPUs have launched though they are remaining tight lipped, as always, I guess.
    Thanks for the info KeyboardDemon, that does sound good but if I've to wait until the end of the year I rather buy it now. Right? I don't know if can wait...

    Quote Originally Posted by Macadee View Post
    Also bear in mind if you are working to a budget, new cards always demand a premium.
    Good question Macadee. I was planning on buying the Intel i7 4770k and the ASUS MAXIMUS VI GENE motherboard which I think are more of the premium side, but you just raised a new question: will the new 800 series graphic cards need new motherboards with the new PCI Express 4.0?

    Quote Originally Posted by herulach View Post
    by the time that 880 (or whatever its called is out) you could have been having a happy 6 months gaming. Unless you want 4k or 3 monitors or something don't worry about it.
    I don't plan on 4k nor 3 monitors setup so you're probably right, but if I buy a graphic card and a motherboard now that will be outdated in less than a year that would be stupid... don't you think herulach?

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Quote Originally Posted by andre451 View Post
    I don't plan on 4k nor 3 monitors setup so you're probably right, but if I buy a graphic card and a motherboard now that will be outdated in less than a year that would be stupid... don't you think herulach?
    If you wait and buy an 880 it will be outdated in less than a year. My current card( GTX670) happily copes with BF4 on high/ultra at 1080p despite being 2 years after release and a number generation behind. For me a 780 is a waste anyway, Xfire R9 290 is where its at if you're spending that money for me, but thats a whole different debate.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    I really wanted a Maxwell based GPU, but to tell the truth I think it would be worth waiting for a second revision of these which is why I ended up getting the GTX 780Ti, which BTW is awesome enough for my 1080p monitor and should be perfect for the 2560x1440 display I'm planning/hoping to get soon.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Quote Originally Posted by andre451 View Post
    Thanks for the reply Wa1lock, just as I thought, the low/mid end first... I guess I was hopping for some kind of miracle... bugles me to know that I'm going to buy a card that will be "replaced" in less than a year or so...
    You know, it's just what I personally think. Nvidia has just launched their GTX Titan Black and a while ago the 780 Ti. In fact they have the fastest graphics card on the market. So if I were Nvidia I wouldn't see a reason to launch the GTX 8xx series. They would just discourage the people to buy the Titan Black.

    This is why I think that Nvidia will launch the high end models of the GTX 8xx series in Q4 2014. In tech world you can't afford to wait buying something. Every piece of tech will be replaced very soon. Lets say you would wait for the GTX 8xx series, next would be to wait for some new processor. Then again for a new graphics card and so on.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Yeah, I agree with with Wa1lock. If you need something now, buy from the products that are available unless you know the item you want is due for an imminent launch in which case hold on. I would definitely say it is a bad idea to put a project on hold indefinitely until the item you want comes out, you never know what might happen in between then and now.

    One thing you might want to consider is to go for a lower end GPU to the price bracket you were thinking about, you could use the lower end card as a placeholder and that would lose less in resale value than a higher end card should you decide to upgrade later, in other words a new £200 card might fetch around £140 on ebay in 6 months, while a £600 pound card might only get back £420 in that same time scale, so you only lose £60 on the lower end card instead of £180 on the top end card. If that makes sense.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    BTW,spending £140+ on the motherboard is a bit of a waste,especially if you are on a budget. A sub £100 Z87 motherboard and a overclocked Core i5 4670K will probably be fine for a while.

    I would the rest of the money into the graphics card,and honestly don't ignore the AMD options. You could get an aftermarket R9 290 for under £300 delivered from Aria recently.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Quote Originally Posted by herulach View Post
    If you wait and buy an 880 it will be outdated in less than a year. My current card( GTX670) happily copes with BF4 on high/ultra at 1080p despite being 2 years after release and a number generation behind. For me a 780 is a waste anyway, Xfire R9 290 is where its at if you're spending that money for me, but thats a whole different debate.
    You're right, unfortunately pc component tend to become outdated very fast, I'm just trying to get the most bang for my bucks and I feel like I choose a bad time to build a pc but I don't really want to wait almost a year...
    I'm not really into CrossfireX/SLI for several reasons but thanks herulach

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardDemon View Post
    I really wanted a Maxwell based GPU, but to tell the truth I think it would be worth waiting for a second revision of these which is why I ended up getting the GTX 780Ti, which BTW is awesome enough for my 1080p monitor and should be perfect for the 2560x1440 display I'm planning/hoping to get soon.
    Yeah those Maxwell features you talked about really seems to be the good stuff but you're right the second revisions always brings improved cards with more potential and fixed problems. Yes the GTX 780Ti is an amazing card I didn't choose it because of the price and also the Gigabyte GTX 780 GHZ Edition is almost as good as a reference GTX 780Ti.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wa1lock View Post
    You know, it's just what I personally think. Nvidia has just launched their GTX Titan Black and a while ago the 780 Ti. In fact they have the fastest graphics card on the market. So if I were Nvidia I wouldn't see a reason to launch the GTX 8xx series. They would just discourage the people to buy the Titan Black.

    This is why I think that Nvidia will launch the high end models of the GTX 8xx series in Q4 2014. In tech world you can't afford to wait buying something. Every piece of tech will be replaced very soon. Lets say you would wait for the GTX 8xx series, next would be to wait for some new processor. Then again for a new graphics card and so on.
    Yeah sure I know, but as you said they have just launched the GTX Titan Black so it makes perfect sense. Thanks Wa1lock

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardDemon View Post
    Yeah, I agree with with Wa1lock. If you need something now, buy from the products that are available unless you know the item you want is due for an imminent launch in which case hold on. I would definitely say it is a bad idea to put a project on hold indefinitely until the item you want comes out, you never know what might happen in between then and now.

    One thing you might want to consider is to go for a lower end GPU to the price bracket you were thinking about, you could use the lower end card as a placeholder and that would lose less in resale value than a higher end card should you decide to upgrade later, in other words a new £200 card might fetch around £140 on ebay in 6 months, while a £600 pound card might only get back £420 in that same time scale, so you only lose £60 on the lower end card instead of £180 on the top end card. If that makes sense.
    Totally, but the thing is that I want to buy a card that will be good for approximately the next 2 years, but let's say I do as you're saying, upgrading to the 870/880 when they come out, do you think they will be PCI Express 4.0 thus requiring a new motherboard?
    Another thing, the Gigabyte GTX 780 GHZ Edition cost £350 where I live, in Switzerland, don't know how much it costs in England. Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    BTW,spending £140+ on the motherboard is a bit of a waste,especially if you are on a budget. A sub £100 Z87 motherboard and a overclocked Core i5 4670K will probably be fine for a while.

    I would the rest of the money into the graphics card,and honestly don't ignore the AMD options. You could get an aftermarket R9 290 for under £300 delivered from Aria recently.
    I'm not really on a budget, I just don't want to spend to much money on a pc that I'll be using almost exclusively for gaming and knowing that I'll probably need to upgrade the graphic card in 2 years, so unless the extra bucks are worth it I'm gonna try to keep things under control. The Asus Maximus VI Gene costs £122 here, but knowing that the PCI Express 4.0 graphic cards will be released within the next 2 years, maybe you're right, maybe I should save some money on the motherboard.. I'm looking for mATX form factor... Thanks for the tips CAT-THE-FIFTH

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    It won't come soon. There has been little/no news about it, and cards are becoming harder and more drawn out to release. Nvidia will use this range for at least 2 years before bringing out new ones. Also, the 700 series is pretty good. It will max out everything so waiting would just mean you lose time playing games at a bagillion fps.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    why would you wait for an 800 if the 600 series is good, GTX 680 is fast and can handle things like 3D surround and push Metro & BF to good FPS at ultra HD, so just get the 700.

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Ok so, everyone seems to think that I shouldn't wait, which is good cause I really didn't want to... unless it was worth it...
    I should be assembling my pc soon... Thanks everyone

    One more thing, I'm starting to consider buying the GTX 780 Ti, any idea on which one? And is it worth the extra money in relation to the Gigabyte GTX 780 GHZ Edition? (should I open a new thread for this?)

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    Re: Should I wait for the GTX 800 series?

    Based solely on the reviews I can't see a compelling reason to pay extra for one, but if they're about the same price, then a 780 Ti that you then overclock will be faster than a factory 780 Ghz.

    Have you looked at R9 290X at all? I don't know your budget, but that seems like a better bang/buck and the R9290 is even better. One advantage of the amd cards is in a few years time you can chuck another one in without it having to be a matching part (I waited too long to SLI my 670 and now you can't buy them anymore)

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