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    New graphics cards don't need power?

    Just purchased a new graphics card and was surprised to see no dedicated power input on the card. Haven't bought a GPU without its own power input for donkeys years. What gives?

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    Re: New graphics cards don't need power?

    As dies are shrunk, the amount of power required to create the same performance decreases.

    A PCI-E slot can give out 75W of power, so if your new card consumes less then 75W, it would make sense that it is bus-powered and thus, does not require additional external power.
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    Re: New graphics cards don't need power?

    Thanks for the explanation

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    Re: New graphics cards don't need power?

    Does the GTX 970 need external power?

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    Re: New graphics cards don't need power?

    Kash Money: Check out the GeForce specs here: http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/de...specifications

    Looks like this card requires 145W of power so based on shaithis' explanation of the PCI-E slot providing 75W, yes I would expect that card to require external power.

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    Re: New graphics cards don't need power?

    What was the card that didn't need power?

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    Re: New graphics cards don't need power?

    Quote Originally Posted by zaphox View Post
    Kash Money: Check out the GeForce specs here: http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/de...specifications

    Looks like this card requires 145W of power so based on shaithis' explanation of the PCI-E slot providing 75W, yes I would expect that card to require external power.

    Or they use two slots

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    Re: New graphics cards don't need power?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0100001 View Post
    What was the card that didn't need power?
    Low end cards have never used them, so at a guess it would be something marginal where power use fluctuates above and below the limit depending on the generation. An entry level gaming card, the GTX 750ti would be the most probable candidate at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulM1 View Post
    Or they use two slots
    I've never seen a graphics card that uses two slots. A card with a cooler that blocks off a second slot is common and there have even been a couple with second circuit board like the GTX 295 but I've never come across anything that actually plugs into two PCI-E slots.

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    Re: New graphics cards don't need power?

    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessWaves View Post

    I've never seen a graphics card that uses two slots. A card with a cooler that blocks off a second slot is common and there have even been a couple with second circuit board like the GTX 295 but I've never come across anything that actually plugs into two PCI-E slots.
    Why I haven't either, just promoting discussion . You never know, some enterprising sort may on reading this have an eureka moment.

    ps. There would be a smiley thing attached if I new where they are hiding.

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    Re: New graphics cards don't need power?

    I have a GTX 750Ti for an ancient system. It does indeed draw its power direct from the PCI-e slot. The PSU is only 375W. No problems.

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