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    Intel 4670K 4600 Graphic = what equivalent discreet graphic?? (AMD and Nvidia)

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    "Intel 4670K 4600 Graphic = what equivalent discreet graphic? (AMD and Nvidia)"

    Currently I have 3 systems in my house that sports the Intel 4670K and currently using the internal 4600 Graphics.

    I was wondering if you guys have any idea as to what discreet equivalent from AMD or Nvidia?

    I am possibility looking for a discreet card but don't want to get something that is equal to the internal or end up way too much.

    Right now I am looking at something like a Nvidia GTX960. I am sure this is much higher than the internal but by how much. Or can I get something lower at a lower cost but still have greater performance than the internal.

    Thank you for your time.
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    Re: Intel 4670K 4600 Graphic = discreet graphic? (AMD and Nvidia)

    Have a read of http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...mantle/?page=3

    That's an R7 250 DDR3, and as you can see it's about twice as fast as the IGP on an i5 4670. You can get the GDDR5 version of the R7 250, which is a little faster again, for about £60. The equivalent nvidia card, the GT740 GDDR5, is around £75.

    So basically pretty much any discrete graphcis card over ~ £60 - £70 should be faster than your IGP.

    My question is, why do you want to upgrade? What are you hoping to get from the upgrade?

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    Re: Intel 4670K 4600 Graphic = discreet graphic? (AMD and Nvidia)

    That depends on the workload. It's equivalent is OpenCL performance is quite different for it's equivalent in gaming performance.

    Assuming we're talking about gaming, Hardware.fr benched it against the low end cards on the market - although only the GDDR5 versions:
    http://www.hardware.fr/articles/940-...ique-jeux.html
    (you may also be interested in some of their graphics card reviews comparing the 360/750 to faster cards, for example: http://www.hardware.fr/articles/941-...formances.html)

    I would expect it to be somewhere around R7 240 DDR3 performance. The R5 230 is a rebrand of an older card (the 6450) so I'd suspect it's now slower than integrated graphics.

    That's about what you'd expect, there's not a lot of point in AMD/nVidia selling multiple cards with less performance than three year old integrated graphics.

    A 960-level card should be about 4-5x the speed in games. I'd go for a 380 rather than a 960 myself because of Adaptive Sync support.

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    Re: Intel 4670K 4600 Graphic = what equivalent discreet graphic?? (AMD and Nvidia)

    Thank you Jim and Endless for your time

    so what you guys are suggesting is that the R7 240/250 or GTX740 would be a good start for a discreet card that would be faster than the integrated and with pricing that wont light a fire in the wallet.

    So this is what going on with my daughters system........ but first here is a little info on the system - Intel 4670K, ASRock Z87E-ITX mb, 16GB mem 1.35v LP cas 9, using integrated graphics via HD4600, and WIN 7pro enterprise 64bit.

    She likes to play this game called OSU. She is getting really good at it.... Then recently we loaded a program called OBS (Open Broadcast Software) where she live streams the video while she is playing the game OSU. What happens is that sometimes the game level she is running, will lag.... now it doesn't do it all the time and seems to lag only with levels that are freakishly hard where lots and lots of stuff going on at once. Now if we disable the streaming program, there is no lag. Re-enabled streaming program, lag returns on the harder levels of the game and not ones that are considered medium or lower, only the extreme levels. I have tried lowering the streaming frames rates from 60 down to 30 and even quality level from 1080p down to HD720. still have the lag on the higher levels.

    so I am thinking that the power required for the higher level of the games and then the processor having to process the streaming program, maybe she is hitting the limit of the internal graphics. So that is why for now I am leaning towards a discreet graphics card. Obviously a GTX980 is just way overkill by a little bit (wink wink).... I was thinking a GTX960 level... but it looks like a GTX 740 may do a good job without killing the bank.

    By the way, as for my internet service, I have cable service with 100mb down and 10mb up (actual tests shows 118 down and 12 up consistently). Another by the way...... yesterday, I just received a delivery for of a new router (DLink DIR-885L) which is to replace my 5yr old router (NetGear WNDR-3700).

    I do know that from my past experiences, that when I go to upgrade my router every few years, I can really tell the difference in the before and after when it comes to network performance.

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    Re: Intel 4670K 4600 Graphic = what equivalent discreet graphic?? (AMD and Nvidia)

    Quote Originally Posted by Banzai_GG View Post
    so what you guys are suggesting is that the R7 240/250 or GTX740 would be a good start for a discreet card that would be faster than the integrated and with pricing that wont light a fire in the wallet.
    I'm not suggesting that.

    I generally wouldn't consider the 240/730 fast enough to be worth the upgrade. In this specific circumstance it may solve the problem if it turns out to be a memory bandwidth limitation or other shared resources problem but I personally feel any upgrade that doesn't offer at least double the performance is just too small to be worthwhile.

    The 740/250 would be sufficiently fast, but in the UK they're ludicrously expensive at £75 or more. It doesn't make sense to get them over a 360/750ti that's over twice as fast, far more popular and just £10-15 more.


    In terms of the specific issue, are you using a single 16GB stick of memory or two 8GB sticks? Integrated graphics tends to be starved of memory bandwidth so single channel or lower clocked memory will impact it's performance.

    Have you got OBS set up to encode using quicksync? Your 4670k has dedicated hardware encoders on it so if it's not using those then that will cause more CPU usage than necessary. Another argument for going for the slightly more expensive 750ti is that it's a much newer design and gets a better version of nVidia's equivalent - NVENC.

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    Re: Intel 4670K 4600 Graphic = what equivalent discreet graphic?? (AMD and Nvidia)

    Nvidia do something called ShadowPlay and the AMD Raptor app has similar functionality. I know a few years ago ShadowPlay was better but can't say if it is the case now. AFAIK,the card needs to be at least a Kepler based one:

    http://www.geforce.co.uk/geforce-exp...m-requirements
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    Re: Intel 4670K 4600 Graphic = what equivalent discreet graphic?? (AMD and Nvidia)

    I would try either a GTX950 (which is a slightly slower cheaper 960) or an R7 360.

    Both are well priced and capable cards, I think anything cheaper and you are asking to be buying another card within 6 months. If she is playing one game now, she will be playing others in the near future and they might want a bit more grunt.

    Both those cards are quite new designs rather than labelled to look like new, so as Cat says should support game recording or streaming.

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    Re: Intel 4670K 4600 Graphic = what equivalent discreet graphic?? (AMD and Nvidia)

    hey all,

    Well..... placed an order for a GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 960 4GB WINDFORCE 2X OC EDITION. Should arrive tomorrow. Hopefully this will address some of the performance issue she is having with the game and streaming mentioned above posts. The one primary reason that I am upgrading is that, I think you will be interested to take a look at, is that I ran across a table that shows the hierarchy of the video cards model for NVidia, AMD, and Intel.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...rchy,4388.html

    My interest was where does the Intel 4600 onboard gpu line up with Nvidia and AMD. Needless to say.... it was way down on the list. Might be great for normal stuff but when things get busy... it will be lacking.

    Heck, my current gaming rig of 3 yrs old with a Intel 3770K + GTX670 is equivalent of a Intell 3770K + GTX960 according to the list. dang.....

    So I decided to get a GTX960 for my daughter's system.

    I am thinking down the road, I will build a new system with the coming GTX1070 and then install my GTX670 into my other daughter's system of the identical system.

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