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Are the GTX 1080's really going to launch at over £600? I was expecting somewhere in the region of £500.
I'm really looking forward to upgrading my trusty 670. I've got a Vive (still boxed!) just waiting for something to power it. Soon now!
I remember reading about the original Rift annoucement, I think over 6 years ago when Digg.com was popular. It's been a long wait and it's so close now. These are exciting times friends!
They already have, so to speak. OcUK are listing pre-orders starting at £620.
However, in theory the ones with third-party coolers will be cheaper. We'll have to see how that pans out though.
Yes, just as they announced. The founders editions are at a premium:
https://www.scan.co.uk/shops/nvidia/geforce-gtx-1080
the non-reference models are 'cheaper'.
The slower GTX 980ti is £500+ so why shouldn't they launch at £600?
That's dangerous logic. The 980ti probably only exists because the Fury was about to be launched, so if it wasn't for Fury then you could be saying "The slower Titan is £900, why shouldn't they launch at £1000" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by EndlessWaves
Indeed. The titan Z launched at £2400, and I think the 1080 might beat it in some games like The Witcher 3.. so maybe it should be much more expensive :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
Because new versions of products usually get priced at the same price point as the old model they are replacing. So really, I'd of expected the 1080 to be same price as the 980 at launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by EndlessWaves
If newer models were always priced higher than the older version it supersedes, then the cost of everything would increase significantly every time there is a new version!
OcUK are now listing non-FE version starting at £525 (reference) and £550 (custom cooler)
Looks like I'm buying the 1070 instead
So far it seems the non-FE cards with custom coolers are around £50-£60 cheaper than the FE cards (excluding the overclocked/specialist versions) - at most retailers anyway. I've pre-ordered the Gigabyte G1 at Amazon for 560, which i'm (relatively!) happy with. Same price at OCUK but I trust Amazon a lot more :)
Disappointingly some retails are ripping people off with the prices and charging a lot more (likely due to the demand) - Scan are one of the worst this time around, asking £630 for exactly the same card (£60 more). It's the same story across the range. Scandalous! (sorry :) )
wasn't too far wrong "NVIDIA Vows to Fix GTX 1080 Founders Edition Fan Bug with Next Driver" wow nice to know that you spend well over £600 only to find out your card is borked........ Oh well :) just thought i would share my 2Pence worth
Perhaps they should launch at what the market will bear, rather than what a load of people that wouldn't buy one anyway think they should launch at?Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
Personally, I think the FE cards were a good idea. When a new fastest GFX card is released, there's price gouging by retailers that have stock because some people are prepared to pay a premium to avoid waiting a few weeks (or in some cases recently, months)
Why let the retailers get all of that?
If they want to be known as a company with over-priced products then they are welcome to do so, but this part of the market won't bear it. My GTX460 was a stonking card at a good price as often used to be the case at that price level, it has all seemed a bit rubbish since then though. I think that is the problem, the bonkers pricing at the high end has trickled all the way down to the mid range and beyond such that even the GTX750ti last I looked was over £100.Quote:
Originally Posted by badass
But then I have only spent about £370 on graphics cards for the family PCs in the last year so what do Nvidia care when they can gouge more than that in pure profit on a single sale to some sucker.
Formalising the early adopter price gouge? That only exists when silicon is in short supply, ie when the card is basically a paper launch. So now we are rewarding Nvidia for doing a paper launch. Nice :(
If they are price-gouging so much, why aren't there other companies swooping into the market to make a killing by under-cutting them? It's not like AMD have been coining it in while under-cutting nVidia. Seems to me like it's a market that costs a lot of money to fund.
Perhaps they should call them "Funders Edition" cards ;)
lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by shaithis
Sadly I don't think we will be seeing any more companies entering the PC graphics market. Not ever.
There are a few left in mobile, but even then in practice it seems to be down to Qualcomm vs ARM and I expect them to stay firmly in mobile. That's largely why I don't understand people on some forums hoping for the death of AMD, how can they think life will be better once down to Intel vs Nvidia? Specially with the history between them, I wouldn't rate Nvidia's long term chance if they get Intel's focussed attention.
I suspect that is why Nvidia is raking in the money while they can, they could do with a war-chest for the times ahead if they can't get their ARM CPU to take off (which I really hope it does, it is one of the few really interesting designs of recent times).
I'm wondering what the hybrid cards are going to cost, Overclockers has the evga hybrid at £689 which is pretty darn pricey. Availability has been so meagre though, unless other companies start offering preorders it's their market for now.
I am sooooo much in agreement with you - we need AMD so badly and people are much too short-sighted to see what would happen if AMD were to disappear. Imagine the lack of development and the prices if there were no competition for Intel or Nvidia. I would love for a behemoth like IBM or Microsoft to go into partnership or allegiance with AMD and see what sort of PC and GPU market would evolve from AMD having access to deep pockets. Can but dream... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
That would sound pretty monopolistic for the authorities ...
And they say a week in politics is a log time........ it seems a week in retailer gouging is even harsher! OC now have EVGA Hybrid at £749.99 as of today.Quote:
Originally Posted by safetravels
OC has MSI Seahawk at £698.99
Scan have MSI Seahawk X at £829.49
Is there any difference in hardware between these or is it just overclocking speeds? Could you not achieve the same performance just by tweaking the standard Seahawk in software?
Actually it's cheaper now then it was then, it's just more expensive for us because of the hammering of the pound caused by the leave vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by blokeinkent
Pre-brexit £689 was 1033.50USD, £749.99 now is 989USD.
The price gouging coupled with the pound dropping value and AMD not putting up any competition in the top end really hurt the prices of the 1080/1070.
Be interesting to see if the reception of the 480 and prices of the high end nVidia cards leads to any new competitive cards a little later in this generation. Fingers crossed!Quote:
Originally Posted by chumpydiggity
Ebuyer have a "SAVE40" code to buy the Zotac 1080 card at £580 today. First crack in the 1080 pricing?
MSI GTX 1080 Armor OC is on pre-order at £580 too: http://www.ebuyer.com/749711-msi-gef...80-armor-8g-oc
I swear both Scan and ebuyer had several 1080s at < £600 at the end of the last week. I assume supply is still limited and prices subject to wild fluctuation depending on who's got stock and current demand. I reckon we'll need to wait another few weeks before the situation settles down.
For comparison, ebuyer seem to have stock of the reference RX 480 8GB currently, at £220, which is about right for the current exchange rate. Lots of other options, at higher prices, all on pre-order though.
Nvidia seem intent on pricing themselves out of the market. If people aren't buying them, then developers aren't going to optimise games for them. The market share is almost entirely in the £2-300 bracket.
Wait for AMD to release the 490. Or the 480 is also pretty damn good for the price when you look at dx12 and Vulkan performance.
Oh people are buying them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister
Also, as to the whole £-thing, the 1070's are staying in the same ball park as they were before Brexit (some cheaper/some dearer) it's just the 1080 that's gotten expensive. It's likely a demand thing and all retailers/manufacturers will make the most of that situation.
I agree on both points and the 480 is very good bang/£. I want the 490 to do well, both performance and price-wise, as even though I have a 1070, the market needs it to do well. I bought the MSI Gaming X 1070 one day post-Brexit. I didn't need a crystal ball to see what would happen with the £ and pricing in general. I would agree that some of the price rises are down to the not so favourable exchange rates but some of the price rises are down to opportunistic price hikes blaming it on the less than favourable exchange rate. More than a few retailers are doing this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister
I am in the process to build a new desktop and I really wanted to go full-in with a 1080, but the price is a bit steep. I might consider waiting for some Black Friday offer and hope.
I'm currently waiting for the GTX 10 series prices to come down too. But it's gotta be the 1070. Can't justify the price of a 1080!
Watching the unveil of the new 10series and seeing the price tags, specifically the 1080 i was very excited to hear that MSRP would be $599 which is about £480 and $699 for the founders edition, I waited for the initial hype buy to pass on the new release expecting the prices to fall in range of the suggested prices, disappointedly the 1080 founders edition sold by Nvidia is the cheapest i could find and just purchased two with the HB bridge, expecting some good results!:mrgreen:
New 980Ti's x 2 (SLI): £700
New 1080: £600
:/
The best price i could find was from Nvidia for the founders edition is £620, is does have limited overclocking ability compared to after market cards but still a beast of a card.
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