Nvidia RTX series review thread

**CAT-THE-FIFTH** · 19-09-2018, 02:14 PM

**CAT-THE-FIFTH** · 19-09-2018, 04:56 PM

I have updated the OP.

**Corky34** · 19-09-2018, 06:47 PM

So i thought I'd raise this question here as i didn't want to derail the front page review thread: This is more a theoretical mussing and/or what if type thing.

I think it's safe to say Nvidia could have waited to release RTX cards, there's little in the way of competition, there's no RTX support until next month, there's a handful of games (or is it none currently released?) that support DLSS and/or RTX, there's the rummor of it not being fabricated on the intended node size (10nm vs 12nm), all in all it seems they could have comfortably waited a few more months.

So the question, theory, call it whatever you want is this, what's the reason for wanting to get RTX into the market so fast? Could it be they know there's going to be real competition very soon in the form of AMD's 7nm Navi, could it be they know, or suspect, Navi is going to put the 10 series in the shade, could it even be that Navi is so good that it can do ray-tracing and not have to depend on AI and developer support for decent 4k gaming.

Could it be they wanted to get a head start with developer support for DLSS and their open/closed system for ray-tracing.

**CAT-THE-FIFTH** · 19-09-2018, 07:01 PM

AFAIK,Turing was meant to be on Samsung 10NM according to an interview held with Asus in Japan,but it didn't pan out so they ported it to TSMC 12NM instead.

It could be quite possible AMD has a gaming GPU out on a new node before Nvidia does,or has a modern equivalent of the HD4870 in the wings,but I will see it when I believe it. It would be awesome if true,just to keep prices somewhat more affordable for the average gamer.

**kompukare** · 19-09-2018, 09:01 PM

With mostly tame reviewers, this gen the extra Nvidia spent on engineering the FE editions actually makes sense
That is, most reviews seem to be comparing these to poorly made Pascal FE rather than aftermarket Pascal cards.
Even PCGH.de seem to only have reference cards

**CAT-THE-FIFTH** · 19-09-2018, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by kompukare

With mostly tame reviewers, this gen the extra Nvidia spent on engineering the FE editions actually makes sense
That is, most reviews seem to be comparing these to poorly made Pascal FE rather than aftermarket Pascal cards.
Even PCGH.de seem to only have reference cards

GN didn't!!

**lodore** · 19-09-2018, 10:02 PM

The conclusion so far seems that the 2080 isn't worth it over a 1080ti due to the extra cost without much difference in performance. I currently have 770 2gb cards in SLI. I currently use a 1080p monitor but looking to get a 1440p monitor so looking for a new single card. I am not sure what to get yet as I like the idea of getting a current gen card but the extra cost doesn't seem worth it.

I have had my current rig for over 5 years so I feel i have got some good use out of the current cards.
I can play Battlefield V beta with current cards at 1080p so tempted to wait for amd cards to come out next year but do not know when they are due to come out. Even if i didn't get an amd card it would still force the prices of the nvidia cards to come down.

**kalniel** · 20-09-2018, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Corky34

So the question, theory, call it whatever you want is this, what's the reason for wanting to get RTX into the market so fast?

I don't think this has been especially fast - I haven't seen any reviews saying the drivers are immature or anything. The reason seems pretty clear - they want to sell more graphics cards. They've already sold to people who have 1080 cards, those same ones are the people the are targetting with the 2080 (plus 980ti owners etc.), so they're not really cannibalising any of their own sales, just selling more to the same people.

**Corky34** · 20-09-2018, 08:57 AM

True the drivers don't seem immature but a lot of the other stuff, arguably the main selling points, are completely missing. I was expecting they'd at least have one or two games able to make use of ray-tracing and DLSS, as it is most reviews seem to going ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ as they can't really test the main selling points, that's not an ideal image to be sending out as many sites probably won't bother to retest.

**CAT-THE-FIFTH** · 20-09-2018, 09:15 AM

It makes total sense if you imagine this was meant to be on a proper node shrink,but had to be back ported to an older node.

Remember back to the HD6000 and GTX500 series which were meant to be 32nm but that failed and they were backported to 40nm.

**kalniel** · 20-09-2018, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Corky34

True the drivers don't seem immature but a lot of the other stuff, arguably the main selling points, are completely missing. I was expecting they'd at least have one or two games able to make use of ray-tracing and DLSS, as it is most reviews seem to going ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ as they can't really test the main selling points, that's not an ideal image to be sending out as many sites probably won't bother to retest.

Always a chicken or egg - do you spend a lot of money developing game features for cards that aren't out yet, or do you wait until they're in gamers hands? Or do you have a middle ground where nVidia help some developers to give a taste, but also start to get cards out there so other developers might see a cause to start including the features.

**CAT-THE-FIFTH** · 20-09-2018, 03:51 PM

Added a section for the aftermarket cards.

**CAT-THE-FIFTH** · 20-09-2018, 11:05 PM

35 game test added.

**MrJim** · 15-10-2018, 09:52 PM

First (that I've seen) performance review of a 2070 card over at HardOCP:

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018...rmance_review/

**Corky34** · 27-10-2018, 06:28 PM

Wasn't sure where to post this as there's so many topics discussing Nvidia's RTX pricing, I'm guessing here's a good a place as any.

It's a short video from ten years ago of Jensen talking about who, or what, sets the price.

**outwar6010** · 30-10-2018, 12:51 AM

https://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...s-cards-dying/

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