How much longer is AGP going to be around for?
I'm hoping it will be a few years....? Anyone know for sure? :inquisiti
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How much longer is AGP going to be around for?
I'm hoping it will be a few years....? Anyone know for sure? :inquisiti
2+ years if not longer
Define "be around for?"
Many chipsets do not support PCI-E. It is likely AGP motherboards will be in production for at least another year or so. Some new videocards are already NOT available in AGP versions and are not likely to be. Also it is very likely that NF4 motherboards will not support AGP, as NF3 will not support PCI-E.
Everything is moving toward PCI-E but AGP motherboards and videocards are likely to be plentiful for at least a year longer. Not many new motherboards or videocards will be AGP however.
Until the mainstream drop it.
Basically it will be here for th elong term, on the older chipset mobos and obviously those pc users that dont need their pc for uber special tasks (i.e. mainstream)
so until the majority of people stop demanding agp it will still be here
also note that a lot of pci-e cards that are being released are also having agp equivalents being released as well, albeit at a higher cost and slightly lower speed, due to the non native spec
Took quite a while for PCI to go before AGP, but PCI-e is domanant now.
The majority of the systems I get requests to build are PCI-E. Fewer than 5% of new PC builds are for AGP rigs. So it appears you need a new definition.Quote:
Originally Posted by muddyfox470
It has nothing to do with what people demand. Did anybody in the computer world ask you if they should go away from AGP and towards PCI-E? Yet that's exactly what happened. Nope, it has to do with stock levels. The mainstream users couldn't care less either way. They think a pre-built Dell with a Celeron, loads of spyware and onboard video and sound is the way to go. :crazy:
I wonder what position agp cards will hold in the next generation of cards ... Can they only be mainstream cards now instead of bleeding edge with PCI-e now taking the flagship cards?
Hopefully they will be around a for a while yet. I have no intention of getting rid of my nf7 s and barton 2500 becuase i cant afford an a64.
They'll be around for a while yet, after all, you can still buy the odd ye oldie pci graphics card today (obviously it's no going to be the mutt's nuts, but they're still available),also with ATi spending a lot of time and money perfecting their pci-e > agp bridge chip you can be sure you'll be able to get decent cards for the next year or so at the least.
IIRC there still isn't any speed advantage in going from AGP 8x to PCI-E 16x, hell, there's still isn't much difference going from AGP 4x to AGP 8x...
it took me a while to find a decent agp mobo for my p4 kit, everything seems to be going the way of pci-e so i wouldn't expect to see many motherboard manufactures pumping out agp motherboards
ATIs newer chipset supports both AGP & PCI-E - so this may keep it alive a little longer...
There was a lot of discussion on this topic at CeBIT
The general concensus was that 100% of the world's largest OEMs had now moved to PCI-Express across the board - and that the smaller system builders were slowly but surely moving across too
The 'rule of thumb' calculation that we all agreed on was around 50:50 for the systems being offered in the current market (globally - all formats)
However, when you consider that nVidia's top selling retail card last year (Adam: Please correct me if I am wrong) was the 5200 PCI...
...you can imagine how far into the future customers will be choosing AGP cards for upgrade projects !
ATI's Rialto solution gives us the greatest possible flexibility when responsing to the demands of our customers
We produce all of our new PCI-Express chips to the highest standards possible for performance and then - according to their individual needs - our customers can chose the number of cards to product with our 'bridge-back-to-AGP' technology
As I said - ATI's new chipset supports both :)