Predictions on when GPUs will be back at RRP.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I was going to say, the next gen AMD APUs having twice the GPU power of the current range does muddy the GPU market a tad at the lower end, so at least a basic gaming rig might be possible. Looking around for a cheap laptop for one of the kids, there seem to be plenty of 5000 series chips out there atm. I can get a 5300U based laptop for £330 (albeit it would need an SSD and RAM upgrade to be capable of more than Minecraft).

But then I see that Activision Blizzard becoming part of the Microsoft empire today... WoW on an XBox? I don't know if that is a strike for or against PC gaming, but $70B for a games company seems significant

It is what I am thinking WRT to laptops if stuff keeps being a bit mental,but yeah MS buying Blizzard is signficant. Think of WoW as a subscription based streaming service?? As I said in another thread,even if AMD/Intel/Nvidia provide the console hardware and streaming hardware,MS and other huge companies will push prices as low as possible.Also with Apple showing it can make a decent CPU and GPU,even companies such as MS might also think of doing the same if AMD/Intel/Nvidia want to jack up pricing. Needing millions of dGPUs and not having to bother about the direct client side is a big incentive for newer players.

[jimbouk]

But then I see that Activision Blizzard becoming part of the Microsoft empire today... WoW on an XBox? I don't know if that is a strike for or against PC gaming, but $70B for a games company seems significant

Better KB+M support incoming?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Better KB+M support incoming?

Pretty please!

[spacein_vader]

On black Friday i got a laptop with a Ryzen 7 5700U, 8gb 3200mhz RAM (I spent £23 buying a 2nd DIMM so it's now 16gb dual channel,) and a 500gb NVME ssd for £500.

The GPU part of the chip is surprisingly capable for gaming.

[ChaosUK]

I was going to say, the next gen AMD APUs having twice the GPU power of the current range does muddy the GPU market a tad at the lower end, so at least a basic gaming rig might be possible.

what makes you think they will not charge an arm an a leg for it?
i am convinced that the price will be high ..

[Super_Ace]

I'm just looking to upgrade my surface pro 4 because the already abysmal battery life has now fallen off a cliff and due to the design its not something that can easily be replaced. A ryzen 6600u with RDNA 2 graphics would be a massive upgrade for me and hopefully there's some good value SKUs released.

[DanceswithUnix]

what makes you think they will not charge an arm an a leg for it?
i am convinced that the price will be high ..

Oh they won't be cheap, but right now a 5700G is only about £20 more than a 5600X which makes for an interesting choice. The 5600X is a better gaming CPU, but you can have two more cores and a GPU thrown in for £20.
The 5600G is down to £220, a price that would possibly get you a 3200G not long ago.

If you are building a kid's first gaming rig for minecraft etc then £220 for CPU and GPU in the current market seems pretty good. Compared to a couple of years ago when you could get an RX570 for £130 it sucks, but that isn't where we are these days

Edit: OTOH, currently the Ethereum price is crashing while the total network rate is going up causing the network difficulty to be an all time high. Given how energy prices are going in this country, fingers crossed eth mining on GPUs is about to die off at least here. It is supposed to be dying off in the summer anyway, not that you can believe the eth2.0 schedule.

[spacein_vader]

Oh they won't be cheap, but right now a 5700G is only about £20 more than a 5600X which makes for an interesting choice. The 5600X is a better gaming CPU, but you can have two more cores and a GPU thrown in for £20.
The 5600G is down to £220, a price that would possibly get you a 3200G not long ago.

If you are building a kid's first gaming rig for minecraft etc then £220 for CPU and GPU in the current market seems pretty good. Compared to a couple of years ago when you could get an RX570 for £130 it sucks, but that isn't where we are these days

Edit: OTOH, currently the Ethereum price is crashing while the total network rate is going up causing the network difficulty to be an all time high. Given how energy prices are going in this country, fingers crossed eth mining on GPUs is about to die off at least here. It is supposed to be dying off in the summer anyway, not that you can believe the eth2.0 schedule.

I think we've passed the point where mining matters to GPU prices. The market has taught AMD/Nvidia that they could sell out at much higher prices even to those using them for games, so they'll reduce volume and increase prices to keep it that way longer term.

[Xuse]

I spent £1500 on my PC (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vRM48r) which is already dated thanks to alder lake... but anyway I was lucky enough to get a GPU for 'MSRP' but even then I had to take out a line of credit. Had I bought my 3070 for what they were going for I'm not sure I could have afforded it even with credit as the payments would have been too much. I upgraded from a 4690k and a 760 gtx.

It is a pretty depressing time to be alive, never mind a gamer. Rising inflation, COVID, rental prices, and now people can't even get a graphics card to relax and unwind.

[[GSV]Trig]

Here's to the great correction, may it come soon....

[Percy1983]

Here's to the great correction, may it come soon....

I do worry we may now be hitting a phase of enough production and its going to be scalper fuelled shortages forever more.

[spacein_vader]

I do worry we may now be hitting a phase of enough production and its going to be scalper fuelled shortages forever more.

Agreed, the correction has happened. Now the manufacturers know the market will accept the higher prices they will adjust their supply to suit.

[kompukare]

Here's to the great correction, may it come soon....

Well, the Crypto part of the problem might be over soon:


It's not the only or sole reason for high prices but it is a major excuse. Now if only "I'm worth it" gamers had a bit of patience and stopped buying for a while, then prices would come way down. Not back to where they were as that's unlikely as some costs genuinely have gone up - but usually more like 10-20% not 200% - but with a dropoff in demand, prices would have to fall back to MSRP to shift stuff.

[kalniel]

I do worry we may now be hitting a phase of enough production and its going to be scalper fuelled shortages forever more.

Or they could be left without a chair when the music stops

It'll be interesting to see what happens when next gen of cards comes out, and when sufficient numbers are not buying equipment for home working etc.

[Percy1983]

May try for an RTX 3050, it may initially release at msrp, it would be an upgrade from my R9 290 but also I guess will be around the performance of my Vega56 I sold for £475.

I guess there won't be a founders edition but will hopefully follow the 6500xt pricing.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

May try for an RTX 3050, it may initially release at msrp, it would be an upgrade from my R9 290 but also I guess will be around the performance of my Vega56 I sold for £475.

I guess there won't be a founders edition but will hopefully follow the 6500xt pricing.

As I said before log into your favourite stores,make sure all payment details are up to date and get in at the launch time.

THEN,look at reviews,etc because you can always cancel it if you don't want it.