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*Hugs his 8GB RX 480, another year bud :D
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it seems nobody likes it..
what they been thinking with that pcie x4 and 64bit memory bus?
ehh...
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ChaosUK
it seems nobody likes it..
what they been thinking with that pcie x4 and 64bit memory bus?
ehh...
Not pushed to nearly 3GHz, this would make a great laptop chip and that's probably what it was designed for before * things happened.
Would also be fine as an eGPU via Thunderbolt which AFAIK is x4 max, but 1) even then 8GB is nice as you don't want to use Thunderbolt to push textures all the time and 2) AMD never did get their act together and add Thunderbolt to their laptops. Guess they are waiting for USB 4.
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laptop chip yes.. discrete card? NO..
it just seems like a cash grab to me
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Scalpers have bought them all, hopefully its a miss fire and nobody is willing to pay scalper prices.
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Lots on ebay for silly prices, but none sold so far.
One has 2 days left and is @ £225
Others are BiN starting @ £350
I really, really hope scalpers made a mistake on these.
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ChaosUK
it seems nobody likes it..
what they been thinking with that pcie x4 and 64bit memory bus?
ehh...
They were thinking they can make any old rubbish and still sell out.
Thus far, they were right.
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problem is some people don't read reviews... so they will still buy it..
and regret afterwards
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ChaosUK
problem is some people don't read reviews... so they will still buy it..
and regret afterwards
In the before times this would have been. what, and £100 card? At £80 I would say it was pretty good. It's the price that sucks.
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Rob_B
Lots on ebay for silly prices, but none sold so far.
One has 2 days left and is @ £225
Others are BiN starting @ £350
I really, really hope scalpers made a mistake on these.
Amen to that. I hope they all lose a lot of money. It will discourage them the next time there looks like a scalping opportunity.
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In the before times this would have been. what, and £100 card? At £80 I would say it was pretty good. It's the price that sucks.
Agreed but still with the PCIex4 caveat. I understand why they did it but it really does cripple this card for any king of longevity. Either x8 or 8GB would have made this a much longer term card.
On a different note, those fixated on the 64 bit bus. It's irrelevant. You can't compare bus widths of cards with a sizable cache to cards without. If the GPU had 8GB on die and so a bus width of 0 bits would that make it rubbish?
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badass
Either x8 or 8GB would have made this a much longer term card.
That is very true. It also seems a lot of money for a card that isn't capable of decent VR (judging from running my Rift on an 8GB RX570 for some time).
OTOH, my machine at work has an RX550 in it. For a low end "5" class card this does have quite a bit more punch.
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Apex
*Hugs his 8GB RX 480, another year bud :D
Me too - Does your's overclock well? I have a Nitro+ and the autoOC in the radeon drivers gives me better than rx580 speeds which I think puts me roughly on parity to this card. Crazy when you think its 6 years old and was <£250. It means prices vs performance are basically the same. I remember when a mid range card could be beaten a card half its price in less than two years.
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The biggest slap on the face is that 6500xt is slower than 5500xt
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ChaosUK
The biggest slap on the face is that 6500xt is slower than 5500xt
AMD fans on forums are already starting to defend this release.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
AMD fans on forums are already starting to defend this release.
Fanboys gonna fanboy. Twas ever thus.
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The biggest slap on the face is that 6500xt is slower than 5500xt
Yeah, that is really bad.
Now this clearly isn't a card I want to buy, but given it is aimed at laptops (apparently confirmed on Phoronix) with the 6000 series APU that raises another question...
Why pair a 16 CU graphics card with an APU that at the top end is about as fast? Can AMD combine the two in some new SLI configuration that actually works?
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It seems no German site got any 6500 XT review samples, and while CB are far too polite (I once posted in their forums about AMD not allowing B450 and Zen3 and someone from the editorial team basically said complaints like that are best made in private...), Igor is not so polite!
https://www.igorslab.de/tests-der-am...r-diese-karte/
For some reason he didn't run this piece to through the translater as it's only in German, but Google can make a hash of translating it:
https://www-igorslab-de.translate.go...n&_x_tr_pto=sc
Do love it when reviewers don't mince their words.
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spacein_vader
Fanboys gonna fanboy. Twas ever thus.
The same lot would loose their crap if this was an Nvidia release!
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
The same lot would loose their crap if this was an Nvidia release!
Of course. That's how Fanboys work. Being a fan of a corporation always seemed odd to me.
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DanceswithUnix
Yeah, that is really bad.
Now this clearly isn't a card I want to buy, but given it is aimed at laptops (apparently confirmed on Phoronix) with the 6000 series APU that raises another question...
Why pair a 16 CU graphics card with an APU that at the top end is about as fast? Can AMD combine the two in some new SLI configuration that actually works?
Hybrid SLI would be very interesting or even just leaving the APU to apply some post-processing stuff.
As for the bolded? Well, why pair a Intel Iris Pro part with a MX350 or similar crazy OEM choices? Because marketting believes that being able to checkbox "dedicated GPU" is a big selling point - and unfortuantely sales numbers bear that out. On those crazy configured laptops, the MX350 might as well be called "battery drainer".
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ChaosUK
The biggest slap on the face is that 6500xt is slower than 5500xt
Anyone else thinking this was originally planned to be a 6300 XT and then shortages happened and names got changed?
Maybe even a lower card. Just looking at the compromises to get the die size and board complexity down I'm not even sure it was planned to be an x300 part!
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spacein_vader
Of course. That's how Fanboys work. Being a fan of a corporation always seemed odd to me.
Me too. Some people just have to "support" something and I guess that some have that desire but don't choose <insert sports team here>
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Overall this could be a slight upgrade to my R9 290, but even at RRP its not worth it.
Seems the scalpers aren't selling, showing one sold at £260, there is one local saying collection only with best offer. If not sold in 7 days I will send an offer of £125.00 as it second hand with no warranty (is still sealed etc).
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They're really not selling on ebay are they? I'm so happy :D
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spacein_vader
Of course. That's how Fanboys work. Being a fan of a corporation always seemed odd to me.
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badass
Me too. Some people just have to "support" something and I guess that some have that desire but don't choose <insert sports team here>
On OcUK forums I pointed out people are trying to find Diamonds in a pile of turds. Just because companies release something it doesn't mean its good or you need to buy it. Also just because one release is "better" than another doesn't make it really any better.
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Anyone else thinking this was originally planned to be a 6300 XT and then shortages happened and names got changed?
Maybe even a lower card. Just looking at the compromises to get the die size and board complexity down I'm not even sure it was planned to be an x300 part!
The specs make it out as an RX560 successor. Just like AMD rebranded the RX680/RX690 as the RX5700XT,or decided to rebrand the Ryzen 5 3600 replacement as a Ryzen 5 5600X.
They have been doing it for years and only have gotten away with it because of Intel and Nvidia themselves overcharging for their products.
Now you can understand why I have been sort of more negative about AMD recently - I could see where they were heading!
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They're really not selling on ebay are they? I'm so happy :D
Looking like I could order from scan or ebuyer right now for £220.00, I hope some scalpers lose money.
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The irony that one of the worst GPU launches has the surprise benefit of costing scalpers money. With all the goodwill AMD had gathered from the community, I'm actually finding it hard to believe they would risk that with launching the 6500 XT. I'm looking to build another PC for my nephew, and the budget cards can't even be considered that anymore. At this rate, buying him a Xbox would be the better value along with gamepass.
