Have any of you guys been looking at this site recently? Geforce 7800? I just seen it there now when looking for nvidia graphics cards.
Neo
Have any of you guys been looking at this site recently? Geforce 7800? I just seen it there now when looking for nvidia graphics cards.
Neo
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yeah saw that - am wondering how they'll perform
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Not that much faster than a x850xtpe i reckon.Originally Posted by Nox
24 pipes is a decent increase, but the rest isn't. Hmmm, we'll see should be interesting
Slightly higher clocks than the current gen of nvidia cards and 50% more pipes.
I'd guess 20-30% faster than an X850XT-PE, overall. Not gonna be as huge as the last leap.
yer it wont be a another giant leap, infact i dont really see this happening again for sumtime. the 6000's was Nvidia pulling its finger out after the 5000's which were crappy cards to say the least compared to the 9700 and basically jumped 2 generations worth of power hence the giant leaps in performance. now they have this lead over ATi currently i dont see them needing to really pump up the speed till the gen after this arrive.Originally Posted by oralpain
Wheres the games for these new cards? Im happy with my x850xtpe for now...
Well from what i have heard is that the R520 from ATi will be built by TSMC on a 90nm, low-K process
it'll close the feature gap to NVIDIA's 6-Series GPU's with suppost for Direct x 9.0c or Shader Model 3. Indications say it will strictly be a 16-pipeline GPU so dont beleive the 24-32 pipe rumours.
Interestingly the followup to the R520 which is the R580 will also only have 16 pipelines but adds an extra pair of texture units for a grand total of three per fragment pipeline.Expect a big leap in shader throughput thanx to ALU's being rejigged for 32-bit precision and very superior performace rendering much-touted High Dynamic Range Lighting effects than the exisiting GPU's. CLockspeeds are usually the last thing confirmed but it wouldnt be far of 600mhz.
Dunno much about the new nvidia GPU. I wouldnt be expecting 32 pipelines though. Even 24 is being over optimistic.
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nice that a new generation of cards is coming out, means price drops on all existing cards will be coming
I wouldn't expect to much dop, it never happens.Originally Posted by coco
What about these new PPU (Physics Processing Unit) chips? when they going to start appearing?
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Perhaps after the next gen vga has arrived?
Originally Posted by unreal
Without physics, all the cpu will really do is AI,sound, and networking.
Id be suprised if a 1st-gen PPU will outperform a recent cpu by much for physics even if you include the other things. If physics can be done on both at the same time, it should allow developers to have much nicer physics.
The cpu will be able to do other things.. but dual core/dual cpu would essentially help just the same. Games will have to be written specifically for it, much like multi-cpu.. I would say they will not be much different.. but a cpu will be more powerfull.
The later gens will be better if the tech doesnt die out..
Dual VPU, Dual-dual core cpu, and PPU
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A dedicated PPU chip will own a CPU when it comes to performing physics calculations since it will have been designed specifically for the task. A CPU is jack of all trades and master of none. It's early days and will probably be integrated at some stage. It will be interesting to see how much of an impact it has on the games and how much support there is for the technology.
People need to learn a bit more about how a modern 3D accelerator works. 'pipes' doesn't mean what you think it means.Originally Posted by oralpain
Read this page (the bit in the middle about 3D hardware). The 'pipes' you guys are talking about are fragment units. The actual pipe is the ROP, since that writes the pixel out to the framebuffer.
And there won't be 50% more of them in the new hardware....
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