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    Ati 9800 and 9700 which one?

    Since my nice 9800Pro just died today, 3 weeks after my warranty ended, I need to pick up a new card. I am just looking for something to keep me into games until xmas when I build a new system for myself. What should I get a ATI Radeon 9700 128MB Video Card at £35 from retekdirect or a 9800 pro for £75 from the same place. Is there much difference between the two. As long as I can play GTA SA I am happy

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    For the price difference on a temporary card i'd go for the 9700 even thought it wont give you the same performance

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    9700 pro deffo. Will give you more to spend at xmas. Also more likely to get more of that back second hand.
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    If the 9700pro was in stock id go straight for that. as it isnt id go with the 9700 (probably the Hercules version with the 256-bit memory interface).

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    It's this one. Can anyone confirm that it can do dual display?

    ATI Radeon 9700 128MB Video Card
    Ref: ATI9700Red

    - Core clock - 275 MHz
    - Memory clock - 270 MHz (540 MHz)
    - Memory Interface - 128 bit
    - Rendering pipes - 8
    - DirectX version - 9
    - AGP - 8x
    - Connections - VGA, DVI, S-Video

    Condition - Factory refurb
    Warranty - 90 days
    Image shows actual card


    Price: £30.00 | £35.25 Including VAT at 17.5%

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    Will do. One dvi and one dsub!
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    Quote Originally Posted by menthel
    Will do. One dvi and one dsub!
    good my heart stopped this morning when both my 20' Dell monitors went blank

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    looks like it's a 9700 non-pro. I've seen one of these cards in action and there's a considerable performance drop compared to a 9800 pro - maybe 25-30% ? Still it ran Desert combat and far cry at 1024 no AA at a playable level if you think you can cope with that....

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    ah it's all good, I am starting work soon and won't be able to play many games,

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    Quote Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk
    looks like it's a 9700 non-pro. I've seen one of these cards in action and there's a considerable performance drop compared to a 9800 pro - maybe 25-30% ? Still it ran Desert combat and far cry at 1024 no AA at a playable level if you think you can cope with that....

    At half the price, still decent.

    I played farcry, hl2 (both on full) and doom3 (middle, with textures up a bit) on a 9500np which was morethan playable in 1280, no AA. Farcry had room for Af though.
    Last edited by SilentDeath; 26-07-2005 at 02:38 AM.

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    9800 pros are not that expensive now. Remember extreme overclocking shortens the life of your card.
    If you can afford new new card every year, more power to you.

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    you can get a 9800pro for around £50 of OCUK in the b-grade items

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    It's good value for money but doesn't look like a Pro given the 128-bit mem interface. 8 pixel pipes for £35 is a fantastic price that said. Difference between a 9700 Pro and 9800 Pro I believe is minimal (about 5-10% maybe), and with this 9700 NP against a 9800 Pro probably 15-20%. It'll still blow away any 9250 or GeForce 6200 in the same price bracket...

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    Rad 9700 pro are very capable cards, the slight increase in performance doesnt justify the cost for the 9800

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    If I were in Your situation I'd go for the 9700 (even if it's non Pro), You won't notice so much drop in relation to Your dead 9800Pro.

    You save a few bucks and in Christmas You could aply them for the new graphics Card.

    PS: I owned a 9500np@9700 and it performed decent in every game I had played, now with the transition to A64 w/ Nf4 I'm stuck with a S3 DX 2mb PCI that is a really great card

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    That's too big an increase for the 9800 pro, I would have thought. Especially if you're going to be upgrading again soon, I would have thought the 9700 would be enough to keep you going for a while - assuming that the 9800 wasn't an enormous bottleneck in the rest of the system already.

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