9800Se AIW Probs

[EasterEEL]

Lexeus

I note from your sig that your mobo is an MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR. I purchased the same motherboard and it would not work with my Sapphire 9700Pro AIW.

The symptons were.... after switch on the fans spin for a split second and then the system stops dead. Pressing the case power switch does nothing until mains power is switched off and on again.

Unplugging the aux power to the graphics card allows boot to the red bios message from the graphics card.

I did quite a lot of reseach on this and there is clearly a problem with certain 9xx cards and mobo combinations tripping the PSU auto cutoff circuit. I changed my mobo to a A7N8X Deluxe v2.0 and the problem disappeared.

Maybe the 9800se has the same problem? If so it is not going to be resolved by changing your PSU, it is an incompatability between the graphics card and mobo.

If you search on google you will eventually come up with lots of users with exactly the symptoms you describe it is not only restricted to the MSI mobo. One thing you could try.... is using a graphics card that will boot, go into the bios and change the AGP to x4. The put your 9800se in and try again.

Good luck

regards....Roger

[bertie]

Yup running on NF7-S
It isn't softmodded atm because I don't need it to be - and when it is system stability leaves something to be desired....


Just because you got no artifacts doesn't mean you have a perfect softmod

[Lexeus]

ok, my earlier new probs have been fixed .... was nothing serious just had to unplug and replug the hdd and fdd....

Anyway, thanks for posting, EasterEEL, I agree there is some sort of incompatibility, but I found that 2 of my PSU's will boot with the card, I think my earlier probs which are now fixed were making the boot hang with those PSU'sa though, as the same thing was happening with my old card too. I am going to try using the new card again. I think you may be wrong about changing the PSU not helping, I beleve if I get a new decent PSU it may work fine.

Although that is only for the booting of the comp. I am having another prob with the 9800se on my old comp which it is currently in. the monitor goes into standby as soon as windows loads, I assume this is a driver prob, and I think i saw sometihng about others having the same prob.
do you have any idea how to fix this, if i get the ssame thing on my K7N2 ?

Thanks

[Lexeus]

woohoo, its working, well its booted to windows anyway . Haven't installed the dirvers yet, I think im going to end up with the monito standbying with the drivers though :-/
Looks like it does depend on the PSU
I am using an old sparkly 235W which some with a P-3 450 bought from PC world about 7 years ago !
Maybe it just depends on the design of the PSU ?

anyway, Yay !

[EasterEEL]

My guess is that due to its age it does not have surge protection to cut the power when it senses the power draw and that gets you through bootup.

If its not to much hassle.... try setting AGP to x4 in the bios and then see if the 400W PSU will allow the system to boot. I never tried that when I had the MSI board and I have read that works and would be interested to know.

regards...Roger

[Lexeus]

I will tomorrow, I haven't got time tonight, going to go to bed in a minute and just stuck the whole system back togethor. You may be right though, as the card booted up fine in my old system with the 400W PSU, and that system only supported AGP 4x.

I have no prbos at all now with this PSU, apart form im not sure if it will take all 7 case fans if i plug em in :-/
But there are no driver probs. supose it could be it has no surge protection, but the 300W generic PSU i have also boots it up to, and thats about 2/2.5 years old. Where as the even older 265W generic PSU i have did the same as the 400W on my system, so doesnt really seem like its because its older ...
Sparkle are a quality make

[Lexeus]

How do you watch TV with this card ?
I have plugged the aerial into the aerial connector on the back of the card now what ?
Do you click the 'TV' or as it seems to have just chnaged to 'Video in' button on the control bar ? As i have done this and the only input options I have to choose form are s-video and composite ?
Should there be another for the aerial ? If so could this be because I have a poor reception on my aerial ? With my old Tv card i could ony really watch the sattelite channel.

Any help appreciated thanks