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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

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    It really depends on the heatsink. Some come with some, others don't.
    Just buy some for the sake of a few quid, its not really expensive
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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

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    its not really expensive
    £1428~ for 1kg of AS5

    That beats lobsters by miles.


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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    The tubes for AS used to be huge. They are tiny these days

    I still have an old one, and its at least 3times bigger than the current ones....grhhh
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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    The tubes for AS used to be huge. They are tiny these days

    I still have an old one, and its at least 3times bigger than the current ones....grhhh
    Yeah when I got mine I was thinking hmmm has it shrunk? They make it look massive in the pics. Would be nice to have a scale in there

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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    £1428~ for 1kg of AS5

    That beats lobsters by miles.

    Where are you buying your Arctic Silver 5?

    Scan price (linkage) £4.45 for 3.5g = £1.271/g or £1271.42 per kg

    Still, it's bloody expensive and the tubes were definitely bigger in the past.

    Just saved you £157 there moogle, assuming you do buy this stuff by the kilo. That's a lot of tubes.

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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    Quote Originally Posted by Emirzan View Post
    Where are you buying your Arctic Silver 5?

    Scan price (linkage) £4.45 for 3.5g = £1.271/g or £1271.42 per kg

    Still, it's bloody expensive and the tubes were definitely bigger in the past.
    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    £1428~ for 1kg of AS5
    The ~ means approx, I cba to check the actual price so my values were based on it being £5. That 55p makes a lot of difference eh.

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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    Fair enough, well aware of my mathematical symbols but that's quite an approximation.

    Though if you buy it in the wrong place I'm sure you could well end up paying £5+

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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?menuno=12119

    And you can get some Isopropyl alcohol at the same place.

    I'm not convinced that the silver loaded compound is any better - and the disdvantage is that it is electrically conductive, so if you do accidentally get it somewhee you shouldn't it can cause problems.

    Remember the trick is to use it very sparingly!
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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post

    I'm not convinced that the silver loaded compound is any better - and the disdvantage is that it is electrically conductive, so if you do accidentally get it somewhee you shouldn't it can cause problems.
    Not one to be pedantic () but its not conductive. It is capacitive though
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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    If your still having issues with the 3 pin fan headers you can always grab a 3 pin to molex converter and power the fan off that - They are only a £1.

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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?menuno=12119

    And you can get some Isopropyl alcohol at the same place.

    I'm not convinced that the silver loaded compound is any better - and the disdvantage is that it is electrically conductive, so if you do accidentally get it somewhee you shouldn't it can cause problems.

    Remember the trick is to use it very sparingly!
    Definitely agree with the sparing use. You can see some shocking examples of paste overuse on far too many websites. Including hexus this very morning, reading the article reviewing coolers it looked as if a little too much paste had been applied, tut tut.

    Kind of agree on the silver pastes too, I've seen quite a few reviews stating the advantages of arctic silver 5 (and other silver based compounds) and given that silver has the highest thermal conductivity pastes using it SHOULD be the best. But in plently of other circumstances they just don't seem to be, this round-up at benchmark reviews comes to mind, the top paste being aluminium oxide based. Some clarity definitely needed. Mind you these sorts of things are only really relevant to the extreme overclocker who wants to get the absolute top performance from a chip, can't really count myself in that category.

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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyMonkey View Post
    If your still having issues with the 3 pin fan headers you can always grab a 3 pin to molex converter and power the fan off that - They are only a £1.
    Not for the CPU - ithe BIOS needs to detect that the fan is rotating, so it needs connection to the speed sensor.
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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...but its not conductive. It is capacitive though
    Yes, I have just read that (on the AS web site) - although hard technical details are hard to find. I guess that it has a relatively low permittivity (which would give the capacitative effect on AC signals) but I suspect that would be true of all thermal compounds.

    No data on the conductivity, if the silver particles are small enough, I suppose the carrier would act as an insulator.

    However, whatever the compund, it is a good idea not to spread it around all over the place!
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    Re: Base unit cleanout disaster!

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    I suspect the problem with doing it with the current 3 pins via PWM is that you run the risk of breaking a lot of current 3pin fans - Many fans have their own internal resister/s, some (but a lot less) a capacitor to help with their initial start up and low voltage operation. I'm not too sure how a PWM square-wave signal would cope with this? (honestly no idea)
    My guess is your PWM signal ends up being smoothed out.
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