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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Noooooo!

    Don't do it EZCool were created by the Lord of Darkness to spread fear and dismay through the world.

    This is a much better PSU http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=696393

    However before spending anymore money, go back to PC world and get them to test the card to make sure it is not faulty. That would be my first port of call. If they can prove the card works properly then think about spending extra money on a new power supply.

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    but webby that one is only a 350 wat .... absolutly no room for upgrade ... Whatd wrong with the ezcool ones ive used 3 of them and they are all still going strong after 9 months ... pluss they have a 120 mm fan and are thermal coltrolled so they are quiet too.....

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by LORD DAVROS View Post
    but webby that one is only a 350 wat .... absolutly no room for upgrade ... Whatd wrong with the ezcool ones ive used 3 of them and they are all still going strong after 9 months ... pluss they have a 120 mm fan and are thermal coltrolled so they are quiet too.....
    Maybe so, but they still use low quality componants. Cheap PSU's are no go's!! (cheap for me being under £40ish for a 400w PSU) Some of the low priced PSU's may well work, but who's to say those low quality componants will be reliable every time? As i've said in a previous thread, I have had a PSU blow on me before (a factory installed one by acer) which coincidently was an EZcool.

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Just a side note, i have installed loads of 'Cheap' PSU's in PC's over the years with no problems at all. I expect it is a matter of luck really!

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Sorry to hijack your thread a bit dude, But on the lines of PSU's, does anyone know what the Hiper ones are like? I've heard good things about them, but they seem fairly cheap for what they are which makes me tend to steer away from them.

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Hiper were good then quality went down the toilet now they are apparently ok again the only question is if your buying from an etailer can you tell if you are getting old stock or not?

    As to 350W and upgrading what exactly were you expecting them to upgrade to anything other than a duel GPU system will draw no where near 350W. And a good quality lower wattage PSU is preferable to a low quality high wattage one. The decent PSU will actually do what it claims the lower quality well lets just say it debatable.

    I can agree that the lower quality PSUs will run fine in most run of the mill browsing the internet, word processing PCs but when you can get a decent branded PSU for less than £30 you may as well get that instead.

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Yes I agree that for cheaper PSUs they must cut the cost some how bit sometimes when building a pc for other people they are driven by price as well as performance.

    I have to admit that in my own rig I have used a 620 wat corsair modular one. And the guys at scan assure me that this is a 750 wat supply that is down rated and so far its been very reliable and was powerful enough to supply my seriously ocd system and an ati 4870... but now i have gone back to Nvidia 280 .

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    This isnt a power supply problem...c'mon fellas.

    Its either:
    a). The BIOS needs to be changed from Onboard AGP to AGP card
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    b). The card/connector is gaffed.

    The PC should boot regardless of whether you have installed the driver disk or not.

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by LORD DAVROS View Post
    Pc world are crap they are expensive and i never buy from there unless I have to coz I need it now and as for their technician most of them are just staff that have worked their way up from till assistants with absolutely no pc qualifications at all..


    When the pc worlds GOON put in the card did he power it up first and uninstall your old graphics card driver then swap the cards over and Finlay install the new driver.. If not that could be your problem

    CORRECT GPU INSTALL = uninstall old driver..... power down pc NOT RESTART. fit new card.... power up pc...... if on vista allow vista to install its own generic driver first ( or problems can occur) then google ATI or Nvidia (which ever your card is) ....... Follow on screen directions to the card type and model you have and click insatll.....

    Finally i have not seen many PCs. with less than a 450 wat supply and if your new card doesn't have a plug for an external power supply I dought that it would need to be upgraded.

    Another thing to check is weather the pc world GOON has actually fitted the card into the slot properly.....

    Also if it is a new power supply you need then SCAN International do a very nice 650 wat supply for about 25 quid. YES I KNOW ITS NOT AN EXPENCIVE ONE but i have used 3 of these in some of the computers I have built and had no problems after 9 months or so...

    here is the link
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?W...n+ATX12v+Ready
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    This is right up there with the worst advice i have ever seen on a forum.

    OP...for god's sake dont buy an EZCOOL PSU...they are just about the worst PSU you can get.

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by LORD DAVROS View Post
    but webby that one is only a 350 wat .... absolutly no room for upgrade
    Sorry but that couldn't be more wrong.

    A good 350W PSU will run a lot

    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...-readings.html for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by LORD DAVROS View Post
    ... Whatd wrong with the ezcool ones ive used 3 of them and they are all still going strong after 9 months ... pluss they have a 120 mm fan and are thermal coltrolled so they are quiet too.....
    Again, covered many times on this forum.

    Fitting a "EZ-Cool" PSU into a system is the human equivalent of sticking your head in a blender.

    Never, ever use one. They are a jokers PSU.
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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Have to disagree there Agent. I have used quite a few EZCool PSU's, bought from Scan and others with no problems at all. I suppose it is a matter of luck as i mentioned earlier.

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Koolpc View Post
    Have to disagree there Agent. I have used quite a few EZCool PSU's, bought from Scan and others with no problems at all.

    We go through this a lot on here.
    Someone posts "They are fine", then people with experiences of them come and post "No they are not" and we go around in a giant circle.

    The price alone should reflect the quality you are getting.
    Talk to anyone with even the most basic of electronics experience and they will tell you the same thing if you mention a "EZ-Cool" PSU - They are a joke.

    I could link to threads like this and this but people will never believe it until it happens to them.

    Lets take this 400W EZcool for example here.Take into the account the following:
    1)It is made in another country (China IIRC)
    2)It is shipped to the UK
    3)It is sold by Scan

    At every one of those points, the company's must make a profit.
    It costs £10.
    How much quality do you think is in the PSU for it to get to the end user for £10?
    Just think about it for a moment....£10. Most ink for printers cost that....and you're spending that much on arguably the most important part of the computer?

    Each to their own I guess

    Quote Originally Posted by Koolpc View Post
    I suppose it is a matter of luck as i mentioned earlier.
    Luck?
    You would rely on luck when buying a PSU?
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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    This isnt a power supply problem...c'mon fellas.

    Its either:
    a). The BIOS needs to be changed from Onboard AGP to AGP card
    or
    b). The card/connector is gaffed.

    The PC should boot regardless of whether you have installed the driver disk or not.
    If you look at this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by davie_boy_08 View Post
    yeah mate, I put the new graphics card in, but the monitor in to the old output(is this what you mean)....same thing happened, monitor was just blank and green light was flashing when it is meant to be a steady. Sorry not very good at this so sorry if im sounding stupid.

    thanks for replying again
    The power LED is flashing, which one would then assume is a power issue? Correct me if I'm wrong

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    Re: Graphics Card - Please Help!

    The bios/motherboard should disable the onboard graphics if it senses a card in the slot. The board only runs one graphics system at a time.

    You should get some output from the monitor. If you don't, pull the graphics card and reinstall it. It shouldn't be hard to install. If it is I would take a look at the contacts and make sure the bloke who installed it didn't damage the slot, if the contacts are poking out and or twisted it's damaged[tell pc world they owe you a motherboard]

    If you still don't get any output, pull the card out and plug the monitor back into the onboard output and check everything still works, then take the card back and get them to check it works.

    I wouldn't bother with swapping psu at this point. I have to aggree with the other posts 250w for a modern thing sounds low. I use whatever is cheap, had very few failures and none of the failures have damaged anything. I do wonder about the way they rate things now, I chucked a 1995 dec pc the other day, it had a 200W psu in it, which ran a dual pentium pc filled with boards litteraly plastered in chips.

    If the psu was an issue just disconnect all the drives and it should put some display out..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    Luck?
    You would rely on luck when buying a PSU?
    Luck in that i have never ever had a problem with them and i have been buying them for a very long time indeed.

    Expensive PSU's can fail too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolpc View Post
    Expensive PSU's can fail too.
    Anything can fail.

    But lets just have a guess here - what do you think the failure rate of a £10 PSU compared to say, a Corsair is over the same time period? Would you say they are the same-ish?

    How can a PSU be made for £10, delivered to the end user, when several company's are involved before it reaches them? Where do you think the cuts have been made? The packaging?
    To put it into perspective - I probably could not buy the raw parts for a decent PC PSU on my trade account at work and build it myself. How to you think EZcool manage it?

    Then what do you think the chance of losing parts to a cheap PSU is compare to say, again a Corsair?

    I just find the entire concept that people are willing to spend less on a PSU, which is *the* heart of the system than the majority of the population does on a black printer cartridge.

    I really hope they never cause you any issues KoolPC, but I can not stress enough to anyone that is willing to take the advice - Never ever buy a EZCool PSU.
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