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    My computer has died :(

    Yesterday morning I fired the comp up and went down to breakfast.

    When I returned to it it was dead (ish) and the room stank of electrical burn.

    I opened it up - there was still power to USB and the mobo LED was on but no boot.

    I assumed it was the PSU that had fried so today I plumbed in a new one.

    Now with the new one:
    mobo LED is lit
    power to USB OK
    no boot but case and CPU fans twitch when I go for boot

    I am stumped

    mobo is Asus P5WDH Deluxe and I really don't want to have to rebuild and upgrade - I don't have the cash and I'll lose a PCI slot and I don't want the hassle of re-installing and authorising everything (programs and OS are on same partition )


    HELP!!

    What has gone wrong with my 'puter?
    What should I try next?
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    Re: My computer has died :(

    I'd go for trying to boot with a minimal setup, i.e. 1 stick of ram, no optical drives or PCI/e cards and see what happens. It might be worth doing a BIOS reset at the same time.
    Did you have the same behaviour with the original PSU (the cpu/case fans partially powering up)?

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    Re: My computer has died :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Viper81 View Post
    Did you have the same behaviour with the original PSU (the cpu/case fans partially powering up)?
    No they didn't move at all.
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    Re: My computer has died :(

    make sure nothing is shorted, also do what Viper said, I once had a DVD-Rom cause this issue.
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    Re: My computer has died :(

    I had exactly the same symptoms with my PC after my *not so* recent PSU failure.

    It was a blown CPU that caused the boot problems, but the motherboard and RAM were both damaged as well.

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    Re: My computer has died :(

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    I had exactly the same symptoms with my PC after my *not so* recent PSU failure.

    It was a blown CPU that caused the boot problems, but the motherboard and RAM were both damaged as well.
    Please no
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    Re: My computer has died :(

    Have you tried booting with the graphics card removed?

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    Re: My computer has died :(

    Quote Originally Posted by sadbuttrue View Post
    Have you tried booting with the graphics card removed?
    Yes
    Graphics removed - no change (momentary LED ignition and fan twitches)
    RAM removed - same behaviour
    All PCI cards removed - same behaviour
    All HDDs disconnected - same behaviour


    never reaches POST
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    Re: My computer has died :(

    so what do I do now?
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    Re: My computer has died :(

    I take it when you say the mobo LEDs are lit do you mean the ones that indicate that there is standby power? (ususally identified in the manual)

    The startup symptoms indicate that it's attempting to supply full power (since you get it for an instant) but that something is causing it to cut out immediately, most likely a protection feature.

    This implies that there's something wrong with one of the components that's left.

    Since a test with no RAM yields the same symptoms it's likely the problem is the motherboard or CPU, or both. Booting with no RAM should get you full power (fans spinning) and some form of complaint by the motherboard (like beeping and/or no post) but you aren't getting power for more than an instant. *This proably varies by make but it's what I've seen with my ASRock mobo.* Sadly this doesn't rule out RAM damage, that would also need testing for.

    You can do a visual inspection of the motherboard for any blown components, likely around the power circuitry, though damage can be obvious or invisible. The same could be done with the CPU but you'd have to dismantle to do so.

    It's also worth checking the kettle lead you used with the original PSU - if the fuse in the plug has blown then the PSU is dead, if it isn't it might be ok since you said it was still delivering usb power, but still might not be worth risking due to the posibility of hidden damage.

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    Re: My computer has died :(

    Are any of the parts still in warranty, and if so with which retailers?

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    Re: My computer has died :(

    looks like the PSU fried the motherboard

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    Re: My computer has died :(

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Are any of the parts still in warranty, and if so with which retailers?
    No

    Everything is between 30 months and 6 years old - apart from the brand new PSU which I got today
    Last edited by Gibbo; 07-05-2009 at 10:13 PM.
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    Re: My computer has died :(

    Have you more ram to try, as dead ram will give the same symptoms ?

    My brothers PC did something similar with his PSU and that killed the motherboard

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      • 2 x 250GB SATA 1 x 120GB PATA 1 x 80GB PATA
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      • Antec TX1050
      • Operating System:
      • XP Pro Sp3
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      • Internet:
      • Orange [:eek:] 8meg running @ 5288kbps last time I tested it http://www.speedtest.net

    Re: My computer has died :(

    Quote Originally Posted by piggin23 View Post
    Have you more ram to try, as dead ram will give the same symptoms ?

    My brothers PC did something similar with his PSU and that killed the motherboard

    resigned to shopping for new mobo ram and cpu

    without much money

    with no clue as to which way to go
    see my thread in hardware
    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...ommend-me.html
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    Re: My computer has died :(

    I'd have thought that not getting a POST is highly suggestive that your MoBo is fubar. You'd still POST (with fatal errors) if the CPU/RAM/gfx were fried but the MoBo was ok. The lights you see are for your wakeup interrupts, and do not necessarily mean that the MoBo is working.

    If cash it tight, start in the classified section. You can pick up a half decent machine in there.

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