I have a question, if I turn on my computer without a graphics card (and my mobo doesn't have integrated graphics) what will I be able to do. Will I be able to run Bios?
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I have a question, if I turn on my computer without a graphics card (and my mobo doesn't have integrated graphics) what will I be able to do. Will I be able to run Bios?
You wont be able to see anything, and you will get a beep error saying no display device.... How on earth can you get into the bios without a screen mate? Seriously?
Have you made sure the Flux Capacitor is getting enough power?
Needs to be exactly 1.21 Gigawatts.
You won't be able to see anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varmint
You would need to put one in m8. Grab a cheap one of a well known auction site. hint hint. ! ! !
So tempted to quote this in my sig.
I understand I won't be able to SEE anything, but I was wondering if I could run on BIOS blindly, because I have an identical computer I can use as a guide.
I can see what you're trying to do, but no, it'll just beep at you endlessly to warn you that no graphics card is installed (imo). :(
Okay, thanks for answering and being the only one who understood the question.
Jigawatts :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zap
But yes, as 0iD says it will more than likely just beep at you.
However, it depends whether the BIOS is set to halt on errors...
If you have an identical computer available, can you not just take it offline for 2 hours or so, plonk the GFX card in the new one and then alter BIOS settings, or just wait for your GFX card but that's the boring way :D
What's one of them then? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by TAKTAK
It is gigawatts but in the film it was pronounced jigawatts due to a screw up by the technical advisor guy..Quote:
Originally Posted by Zap
and about the computer beeping, there's probably a way to set it so that it boots normally without a gfx card but for that you'd need to be able to see :P
I think it's more to do with soft and hard G's, also the original term Giga was always pronounced as Jiga.
Edit: Taking this too off topic, sorry OP!
1.17 to be precise.....damn I hate it when someone gives the wrong advice!:shaun:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zap
Try it. (I was going to add and see - but of course you won't!) but just try it to find out what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varmint
agreed, use the gfx card from the identical computer.
All the serious answers are correct in the general sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varmint
However there are specialist PCs that can boot without a graphics card and dump all the text data you normally get on screen to the serial port or via SNMP on the network. This means you can monitor a server remotely, especially in the later case. This can, in theory, mean you can completely manage a server from across the world. Couple that with an OS that can handle not having a graphics card, this means unix, linux, BSD, solaris, etc. and you can have a bunch of machines that don't have any graphics hardware at all, and can all be looked after completely from your bed via a laptop :)
With the domenance of comodity hardware these days in server environments, this is becoming pretty rare though. Especially as graphics chips or a couple of dollars to include on a motherboard. This wasn't the case 10 years ago.
This is a myth - it doesn't work :(Quote:
Originally Posted by TAKTAK
You need a card for any modern home system to POST. Changing the stop on errors bit in the BIOS does nothing. I\'ve tried it on a lot of machines and not been able to find one person who can confirm they have had it working.
My old one let me :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent
was an el' cheapo foxconn board IIRC, it was still booting (using as fileserver) as it was still making windows sounds and accessible via external.
This made me lol, even though clearly the OP isn't as dumb as his first post made him out to be :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaineoliver
I'm more surprised that Windows didn't throw a wobly to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAKTAK
I really thought it would fall over badly without a graphics card.
Do you know the model number?Quote:
Originally Posted by TAKTAK
I have spoke to a few people high up in certain companies who have assured me this can't be done without hardware set-up with this in mind and is not really found on consumer devices. I'd be very impressed with Foxcon if they went to the effort. The major issue is that BIOS makers like AMIBIOS, Phoenix etc.. have a GPU requirement hardcoded in from the start, and working around this takes a lot of work apparently. More so as Funkstar highlights, Windows relies on the graphics card drivers heavily even during the install phase.
The exception that I know of to this is NT embedded and XP embedded, which include a "headless VGA driver" (IIRC) that 'fakes' a VGA output. A normal Windows install does not include this, so Vista, XP, W7 are out. Using XWindows on Linux also appears to need some config for this, and some distros don't seem to fully support it.
MSDN has a few bits on it: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...bedded.5).aspx (and search at the top for more). All of which refers to the embedded versions of Windows as far as I can see.
Sorry to question you here TAKTAK, but this is something I am really interested in due to using a number of machines where this would really be handy.
What motherboard was it? What chipset was it? What OS did you successfully boot (and with what changes)? How did you admin the box?
Hope that doesn't sound like I'm calling you out mate, just really really curious.
I'll try and dig it out tomorrow :)
All i can remember of it was the GFX card died but i still needed files that were on it, so i took the card out, (or did, i? it's a bit hazy :/) tried booting, et voila.
The OS was XP MCE2005 IIRC, but i'll try and get specifics tomorrow :)
You'll be able to remote desktop into Windows if your motherboard supports headless mode.
Haha, turns out I was being a nincompoop all along, the GFX card may have died, but it had an onboard VGA port that had been blanked off, so in essence I was just using it blind for no reason :laugh:
Foxconn - 6100K8MA-RS
/me points and laughs at TAKTAK
:)
I always admire people that can post up their stupidity for everyone to enjoy :)
If all you wanted was files off it, why didnt you just take out the HDD and plug it into the other identical system? or another computer?
Either way, you got it now.