Help me price a system

[Allen]

NF7 has the AC'97 onboard sound, the NF7-S has Soundstorm. NF7-S is well worth the extra £15!

[Jimmy Little]

ok i will get the good one.. thanks

and for gcard this any good Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9800 PRO 128 MB DDR 8x AGP DVi & TV-Out ???


http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=47511

[Allen]

Careful, I think the Atlantis was the one with the slower memory architecture meaning it'll run slower then other 9800Pro's. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

Cheeky Sapphire!

Try: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=63700

[Jimmy Little]

you guys rock!

i guess i should go SATA now aswell seing as i'm getting him a SATA mobo... that mobo will work the 2100 all be it a little slow yeah?

[nichomach]

Yes it will, but AthlonXPs REALLY benefit from running the memory synchronously with the FSB speed; my machine at home has PC3200 memory; it's actually fractionally slower if I run the memory at PC3200 speeds rather than PC2700 speeds.

[Allen]

Memory will work fine, yes, but will be the bottleneck of the system.

SATA isn't necessary IMO as there aren't many native SATA drives around anyway, most are PATA with built-in converters. Even the native drives offer very little advantages in speed at the moment, except the OTT priced Raptors!

[Jimmy Little]

ok sweet, which sata drive from ebuyer - i know i'm taking the mick now, you two just seem to know your stuff

[Jimmy Little]

ok then i might stick with IDE, if it will save money

[nichomach]

It won't hurt you; the hard disk certainly won't be a bottleneck, but can I recommend that you do run it off the actual IDE channels and not via the Serillel adapter supplied? I originally had an IDE drive which I ran via that and it gave issues.

[Allen]

Since the roll-out of the Sapphire 128-bit version of RADEON 9800 PRO core into the channel it has been brought to our attention that this model is being met with some confusion and for this we would like to extend our sincere apologies. Keeping with our level of interaction within the community, Sapphire is moving to alleviate said confusion by renaming the 128-bit version to the Sapphire RADEON 9800 ATLANTIS and we are instructing each of our retail partners to clearly and prominently list the 128-bit memory specification. Further to this end, the Sapphire RADEON 9800 ATLANTIS 128-bit products boxes will now be labeled with an oversized 128-bit sticker on the boxes face as well,” Sapphire Technology said.

There ya go, the Atlantis is slower than other 256bit 9800Pro's.

http://www.sapphiretech.com/press/128-bit-9800.pdf

[nichomach]

Quite so, and well fielded, that Allen.

[Allen]

Here ya go, I have this SATA drive. No probs so far...

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=52160

Seagate ST3120026AS 120GB 7200rpm Barracuda 7200.7 SATA - OEM for £57.98 inc VAT.

:edit: I actually have the 160GB version, but they'll be the same!

:edit2: I wonder if I'll get any work done today.....

[nichomach]

:edit2: I wonder if I'll get any work done today.....

What is this "work" of which you speak?

[Allen]

The thing I'm supposed to be doing, sitting here at my desk...

[Jimmy Little]

yeah me too.. it's really cool of you chaps to help me out! shame they got rid of the rep system!