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    Unhappy Have i killed something?

    hey people hope u can help as im slightly baffled by this...

    basically mate my has an old pc made by tiny (booo)

    p3 733mhz thing

    but basically he hated te tiny case as it was falling apart so he ordered a case from ebuyer, u know the tacky ones, nothing to out of the ordinary there!

    so tonight i swapped everything across for him, plugged it back in (only differnce was it was plugged into the 350w psu that came with the case)

    pressed the on button, the fans spin for less than a second then nothing, tried again, nothing, turned it off at the mains, back to the fans comin on for a split second and off

    so, thought, hoped, prayed maybe the psu was naff so tried the one that was being used before and the same thing happened there.

    so here i am posting on his behalf feeling guilty and responsible not knowing what to try next, ive unplugged it various times n took all pci cards etc out but im lost, has / could something died in the process of swapping things across ?

    please help people as i feel really bad, killing someones entire pc isnt exactly the greatest thing i ever achieved


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    Check the heatsink - if it's not mounted properly it might be causing the CPU to heat up and if the BIOS has some kind of temp limit it may be turning it off when it gets too hot... Also - sounds silly - but check the power button isn't stuck in...

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    Sounds like something might be shorting against the case to me?

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    This could be a defective CPU, motherboard or a device connected to the motherboard.....double check ALL the connections and ensure the psu power leads are securely fitted to the peripherals (push then in real tight) and that anything connected to the mobo is securely fitted.

    If still no post you could try reseating the cpu and heatsink as this will often cause a problem when moved.

    Did you clear the CMOS before booting?

    Try booting with a single stick of ram to see if that has an effect


    Let us know how you get on

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    I doubt it would be the CPU overheating if the PC couldn't stay on for less than a few seconds? It would take at least 30 seconds to a minute before you could seriously suggest overheating.

    Do you hear any beeps or noises JimmyBoy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xcelsion
    I doubt it would be the CPU overheating if the PC couldn't stay on for less than a few seconds? It would take at least 30 seconds to a minute before you could seriously suggest overheating.

    Do you hear any beeps or noises JimmyBoy?
    If you mount a S370 heatsink the wrong way around it could easily be making no contact with the core.... Though it could be slot 1. I like SD's idea that something is shorting out... Makes the most sense after a case transplant.

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    u did discharge youself of static before you touch any of the components ?

    if you didnt ,your static has possibly blown one of the circuits on any component

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    Try resetting the CMOS

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    Take everything back out of the case mate, and try firing it up on the bench with the bare minimum connected, see what happens then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon bda
    Take everything back out of the case mate, and try firing it up on the bench with the bare minimum connected, see what happens then...
    Sounds like good advice. Tiny were notorious for making their machines (well, from that era) impossible to tamper with without some evidence you did it, everything from hot-glueing the IDE cables to the hard drive to using cables cut to exactly the right size needed for assembling the system but short enough to require you to distort it if you pulled it out.

    For all you know the new PSU is useless and the old one has died - just a bad coincidence

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    tried this with my tiny comp the other week but the bastardos glued th IDE cables to the hard drives and cd-rom. grrrrrr

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    I remember reading of people who had major faults with the HDDs in their Tiny systems. Why? Because Tiny had actually put the glue ON the IDE connector...
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    First thought is it is a short on one of the power leads causing the PSU to trip on overcurrent.

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    It's not something simple like an incorrectly wired front panel.
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    Not an IDE cable the wrong way round..... without notched on the ends then the machine will show similar syptomes...given me anjina in the past.
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    well, i didnt unplug any ide cables, as i could due to tinys excellent idea to glue it all together grrr

    i even tried using the old power switch from the old case to no avail, it still just does its stupid lil on off thing, i hada dfi mobo that did exactly that n it was dead, i think maybe the mobo has been fried, but i certainly will try all of ur suggestions when i get my hands on the system again and get back to u all, thanx guys

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