Tosh's HD DVD Chinese licensing deal signals defeat for Blu-ray

[Bob Crabtree]

Is Sony's Blu-ray Disc technology set to suffer the same fate as Betamax VCRs?

Quite possibly, judging by the news from International Herald Tribune that Toshiba - Sony's deadly rival in the high-definition disc-player war - is licensing its HD DVD technology to Chinese manufacturers for low-cost production.

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[Fabula]

As usual, we will have to wait and see.

But it is an interesting twist.

[Biscuit]

Well the blu-ray side of things do have the ps3 to pull them into the market, not to mention korean companies such as LG and Samsung who have suggested dual compatability players.

Personally i still think sony are going to lose again. i have never really been overly impressed with sony as a company, its products are often less than great for the price you pay

[fuddam]

Personally i still think sony are going to lose again. i have never really been overly impressed with sony as a company, its products are often less than great for the price you pay

until you look at their professional broadcast gear

for consumer stuff, agreed that I hardly ever buy sony

[[GSV]Trig]

I thought Son saying no pron on blu-ray was the killeR?

[Sinizter]

Nice. We will have to wait and see for the results of this deal. But I am all for HDDVD to take the lead ... BD and its region protection annoys me.

[Bob Crabtree]

I thought Son saying no pron on blu-ray was the killeR?

Well, that attitude to naughty movies helped to kill Betamax, so if that's really how Sony is going to play things with Blu-ray, then the format is almost certainly doomed.

[Sinizter]

Well, that attitude to naughty movies helped to kill Betamax, so if that's really how Sony is going to play things with Blu-ray, then the format is almost certainly doomed.

Its not Sony's official stance. But Sony wont replicate adult movies in their factories. Since most blu-ray replication facilities are owned by Sony - it then becomes the official stance as it is forced on everyone.

[shadowmaster]

If they wont replicate adult movies in their own factories, then I am assuming they have some sort of ethical stance on the issue?

[moby_matt]

I take it that this means ALL duplication has to go through Sony? That in itself could kill the format as it could be considered a closed market...

[Sinizter]

I take it that this means ALL duplication has to go through Sony? That in itself could kill the format as it could be considered a closed market...

All duplication does not have to go through Sony. There are already some which are non-Sony controlled and new ones coming up from what I have read.

These will do adult material without any hassle.

But right now, I think all replication facilities are pretty much nearly upto capacity.

[Funkstar]

DVD duplication facilities can easily be converted to produce HD-DVDs apparently, they may even be able to produce both alternately, making it very efficient to run a plant.

BluRay needs a different production process so new plants or production lines are needed. Obviously no-one is going to build these without a vested interest, and as Sony are already a large disc manufacturer, they are bound to be the first/main duplicator of BluRay titles. At least initially, unit volumes rise of course and it becomes financially viable for other producers to invest in the new systems.

[wheelus]

Markets & marketing, by their very nature, do not have much logic. It’s all to do with greed and selling to greed requires fashion. Those money-marketing “yammamotos” at Jap Inc. have honed their craft well, starting with the days of low tech cheapos to the heights of techno fashion and the classier their act, the deeper they bite into the cake that is, “Fashion sells”. Yes, every budding and seasoned kelptomaniac knows that but few achieve it and the more glitzy their perceived glamourised position is, the more entrenched their bottoms become. Boardroom strategy battles included.

Economies of scale enforces education about, “The Limits of Greed”, something that perpetual income kleptos still have wet dreams about and witness the “Digital Rights” free-for-all grab. Only from the twisted minds of the demoncrazy crowd can such immoral ideas be promoted and established as normal. Including tidbit remittances of plundered loot perfumed as “Acts of Charity”. One reason why you cannot bake a $1 bread loaf but can buy them everywhere. Yes, sony-san still have enough petty cash to replay the VHS-Betamax game but all these kleptos are looking to the wider picture for if the trick can be pulled, they’ll get got another 10-odds years of easy Viking plunder. The “market” is just brainless fashionites looking for an answer to their existence, your latter-day “god” seekers. Humans who have no absolute maturity have no logic but plenty of rationalities and long may Tosh plunge the knife to teach kleptos everywhere that the dumb market too can smell stench once their nose is switched on. Looks like another sort-of US-China spat where the sophisticated developed, but immoral persona, counters the demonised naïve low-lifes. But then, they haven’t count on tradition, have they, and tradition matters most when you need to stop immorality.

[Bob Crabtree]

wheelus,

Another interesting analysis.

Not sure whether I prefer this one or the other one, though.

[Biscuit]

this forum has its own Michael Moor xD