Headline :: The Church seek substantial cut of Sony PS3 shooter

[Steven W]

Following the inclusion of the interior of Manchester Cathedral in Sony's Resistance Fall of Man, The Church of England are demanding a substantial cut from the game's profits.

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[Raz316]

hah, they cant do that surely??

"How dare you use such a well generated digital representation of our church! We are absolutely outra... well unless of course we can have a slice of it? 30%?"

God would be spinning in his grave

[kalniel]

I would guess it depends where they got the images from that they used to make the model. If they took them without authorisation, or filmed etc. actually at the church, then yes, absolute right to complain at not being asked.

[Million]

They've changed their tune, now they want some of the profits?! What a crock

[Raz316]

yeah I was under the impression their initial beef was the fact they weren't pleased that the church was ingame and they would use the permissions issue to resolve this.

[Steven W]

hah, they cant do that surely??

"How dare you use such a well generated digital representation of our church! We are absolutely outra... well unless of course we can have a slice of it? 30%?"

God would be spinning in his grave

The church is a business after all. They charged me £750 for getting married there.

[Raz316]

haha the cheek!

I appreciate its business too, but don't like how their moral issues subside a bit when money is potentially involved.

[kalniel]

haha the cheek!

I appreciate its business too, but don't like how their moral issues subside a bit when money is potentially involved.

They don't.

[awm]

They don't.

Unless I misread the article they would be willing to be bought off. I would call that having moral issues slide, unless you were pointing out that the morality is always low and doesn't slide.

[kalniel]

He said the letter would make four demands:

-An apology for using the cathedral

-Withdrawal of the game, or modification of the section of the game to remove the cathedral interior

-Sony to make a substantial donation from the games' profits allowing the cathedral's education department to target more effectively those aged 18 to 30

-Sony to support other groups in Manchester fighting against gun crime.

No-where does it say anything about dropping any complaints after getting money. Those demands are not mutually exclusive.

[noTHINGface]

This will go nowhere - If it wasn't a church then this would not see the light of day. I have no love for Sony but their recent response kind of sums it up;

Resistance: Fall of Man is a fantasy science fiction game and is not based on reality. The game is set in an alternate and mythical version of Europe in the 1950s, in which the enemy are strange looking alien invaders seeking to destroy humanity.

Whilst we believe that we have sought and received all permissions necessary for the creation of the game, we will be contacting the Cathedral authorities in order to better understand their concerns in more detail.

[awm]

No-where does it say anything about dropping any complaints after getting money. Those demands are not mutually exclusive.

Asking Sony to withdraw the game and pay a share profits is impossible, since there are no profits on a withdrawn game, it think its one or the other. Of course my cynicism may be wrong.

[Raz316]

No-where does it say anything about dropping any complaints after getting money. Those demands are not mutually exclusive.

yeah thats true actually my bad. Still don't think they should really look to gain any money from the game.

[nichomach]

Asking Sony to withdraw the game and pay a share profits is impossible, since there are no profits on a withdrawn game, it think its one or the other. Of course my cynicism may be wrong.

Actually, it's perfectly possible to demand a share of the profits on units already shipped and demand no further shipping of the game. Moreover, they've asked that the game be withdrawn or modified to exclude the offending content. As for "gaining money", we're not talking about a bunch of shareholders (or even clergy) trousering the profits. They've asked for a donation to the cathedral's education department, and to various charitable organizations opposing gun crime. That hardly seems like profiteering.

[awm]

You may be right, I guess I was too cynical.

[Sinizter]

So now we know why they were making such a big fuss about it.