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    DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Only one in fifty people who use Steam own a copy of Windows Vista and a DX10 compatible graphics card and Gabe Newell isn't a happy man.
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    Last edited by Steven W; 28-08-2007 at 10:17 AM.

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Only one in fifty people who use Steam own a copy of Windows Vista and Gabe Newell isn't a happy man.
    I thought it was one in fifty own Vista and a dx10 graphics card?

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    I thought it was one in fifty own Vista and a dx10 graphics card?
    Either way it's terrible new for Vista and DX10.


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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    I'm starting to think that Microsoft see DirectX for the PC as just a way of bringing Xbox games to windows cheaply and easily, rather than as a feature/product in its own right..

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    i must admit when i bought vista and my dx10 card (woot! i'm one in 50) i expected more games to be coming in dx10 form it seems a bit off

    incidentally if 1 in 50 who use steam have a dx10 card and vista how come every kid you play with seems to be running to 8800 ultras and a core 2 xtreme

    i wonder why that is


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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Quote Originally Posted by danroyle View Post
    i must admit when i bought vista and my dx10 card (woot! i'm one in 50) i expected more games to be coming in dx10 form it seems a bit off

    incidentally if 1 in 50 who use steam have a dx10 card and vista how come every kid you play with seems to be running to 8800 ultras and a core 2 xtreme

    i wonder why that is
    i dont know maybe you got lucky so far and have only encountered people with vista and 8800.

    but realy and truly it doesnt take a scientist to know that most people dont have vista and/or a dx10 cards

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    i dont know maybe you got lucky so far and have only encountered people with vista and 8800.

    but realy and truly it doesnt take a scientist to know that most people dont have vista and/or a dx10 cards
    strangely most of the people that claim to have the cards tend to be annoying little teenagers that spend most of their time trying to insult you by making comments about what they did to my mum last night which always makes me chuckle


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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Quote Originally Posted by danroyle View Post
    s... that spend most of their time trying to insult you by making comments about what they did to my mum last night which always makes me chuckle
    Dont assume that they're always joking, I fell into that trap... I miss my mom.

    I've held off from the Vista 'experience' until the 1st SP comes out - perhaps this is what the masses are waiting for? Though the thought of moving over to DRM hell also sends a shiver down my spine - network overhead for playing an mp3?!
    What we share with everyone is glum, and dark...

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Quote Originally Posted by noTHINGface View Post
    Dont assume that they're always joking, I fell into that trap... I miss my mom.
    I assumed dan was chuckling as his mum is deceased. That'd teach the little s. No offence meant btw.

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    I suspect if they launched DX10 under XP it would have a lot more appeal and adoption - I supsect the number of Vista users is far lower than people with DX10 capable cards...

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Assuming the 360 was up to it, DX10 for the 360 would at least result in more DX10 games to benefit PC gamers. Restricting it to Vista might be a very big mistake. If it doesn't push users to Vista, & it doesn't seem to be, it's going to hurt ms.

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    There's no way I'm "upgrading" to Vista for DX10, granted I haven't got a DX10 card either, but from what I hear, even on the DX10 platform it's making little difference compared to DX9 anyway..

    Hopefully Microsoft will do a u-turn and release it for XP, but if they don't, I can't say I'll be too concerned either way TBH.
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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoo View Post
    There's no way I'm "upgrading" to Vista for DX10, granted I haven't got a DX10 card either, but from what I hear, even on the DX10 platform it's making little difference compared to DX9 anyway...
    Oh that's just not true. Aiui it's veeerrrry slllooow. Maybe that's to give it retro gamer chic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR View Post
    I suspect if they launched DX10 under XP it would have a lot more appeal and adoption - I supsect the number of Vista users is far lower than people with DX10 capable cards...
    Spot on.

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoo View Post
    Hopefully Microsoft will do a u-turn and release it for XP
    Not gonna happen. MS knows they win the long-game no matter what anyone else wants. They just need to stick to their guns and people will end up being forced into Vista.

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    Re: DX10 for Vista was a mistake by Microsoft say Valve

    Windows XP user here and still going strong - really do not see the point of getting vista until at least service pack1, and thats even owning a dx10 card (i got a good deal on it). Look at any microsoft release and think of a os that was fine when it first came out

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