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    Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    The Health Secretary, Alan Johnson, will request the addition of fluoride to the water supply in areas suffering high rates of tooth decay. Fluoridation, a controversial process, is under scrutiny by many claiming a lack of quality research. Is the Health Secretary wrong to force mass medication upon us?
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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    Bah! Bloody meddling nanny knows best state again.

    Is the Health Secretary wrong to do this? Yes, in my opinion he is.

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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    Didn't they do this in the 70s anyway?

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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    Mass medication without consent that's what this is. They know the effects of Fluoride, if they didn't why was it categorised as a poison under the 1972 Poisons Act, in the same group of toxins as arsenic, mercury and paraquat?

    Here's a quick rundown of a few of fluoride's potential dangers:

    * A number of studies have linked fluoride to as many as 10,000 cancer deaths each year, with a high incidence of bone cancer among men exposed to fluoride
    * In animal trials, fluoride has been shown to enhance the brain's absorption of aluminium (the toxin shown to contribute to Alzheimer's disease)
    * Several osteoporosis studies have associated hip fractures with fluoride intake



    I'd rather have rotting teeth. Tell the adults to make sure their kids brush their teeth, don't force fluoride on the population like the Nazis did. It's well documented that mass medication of drinking water with sodium fluoride was a tactic used in German and Russian prisoner of war camps to make the prisoners "stupid and docile".

    "Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and people will believe it."

    - Adolf Hitler

    Health benefits...yeah right thanks. Grab your water filters now people, if you haven't done already, or buy bottles.

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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    They've been doing it oop North for donkey's years, parts of the Midlands too IIRC.

    Personally I think brushing teeth and dental hygiene would be a far better option, that or the more Darling friendly "tax on sugar". Hehe.

    This is worth a read too, how much stock you put into it though is entirely up to you:

    Fluoride - Poisonous Mind Control

    Bah, beaten!

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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    Quote Originally Posted by scruffy View Post
    Personally I think brushing teeth and dental hygiene would be a far better option
    Precisely, that's what the Health Minister should be thinking about. Instead of Barbie doll adverts during kids TV shows, where are the adverts that remind children to brush their teeth? When I stayed in Canada in the past, they had plenty of health related advertisements along those lines.

    Promotion of better dental hygeine is needed, putting chemicals in our water isn't.

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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    There's no end to the BS.
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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    Shocking!

    There is zero long-term benefit in consuming something like fluoride on a regular basis, is was indeed used by the Germans to keep prisoners manageable, maybe that's what our government wants to keep us all nice and docile and agree with all their new taxes and sneaky laws.

    1984 gets closer and closer, are we really moving forward....

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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    So, what can be done about it? Drink Evian forever more?

    Are Britta filters good enough to filter out such small particles?

    Who would you voice your concern to in government? Like it matters, or they'd listen...

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    ^I don't think Britta filters would (though I could be wrong) as I've a feeling it's something heavy duty (like reverse osmosis) that's required to get it out.. We've got Britta filters at home (and in the kettle!)

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    Britta filters do nothing, pollaxe is right, you need something like a Berkey water filter (US) but they do a UK Berkey. Google is your friend.
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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    My other question is, why does this have to be mandatory? Why not make it optional? i.e if you want it, go to the doc's to get a fluoride supplement instead of it being a compulsary dose everytime you go to the tap.

    I like water, I drink a lot of it everyday. I don't like the introduction of chemicals in to my water supply. Man has got by for hundreds of thousands of years without it, who are they to say we're better off with it?

    edit - @ godsdog - had a little look about and some of the filtration elements look like they'd fit into normal UK water filter taps mounted into sinks, is this what you mean?
    Last edited by scruffy; 04-02-2008 at 04:01 PM.

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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    Quote Originally Posted by scruffy View Post
    My other question is, why does this have to be mandatory? Why not make it optional? i.e if you want it, go to the doc's to get a fluoride supplement instead of it being a compulsary dose everytime you go to the tap.

    I like water, I drink a lot of it everyday. I don't like the introduction of chemicals in to my water supply. Man has got by for hundreds of thousands of years without it, who are they to say we're better off with it?
    It's vital you contact your MP and lobby. Make your voice heard - no matter how futile you deem it. It can and does work. Apathy is the killer.

    Quote Originally Posted by scruffy View Post
    edit - @ godsdog - had a little look about and some of the filtration elements look like they'd fit into normal UK water filter taps mounted into sinks, is this what you mean?
    I meant using the Berkey water filter for your daily drinking water like you see on the US Berkey site. And I haven't checked out filter transferability, I'd have to do way more research. But I've been toying with the idea of a Berkey for a while, but I'm of an age where the damage will have already been done - from BSE to the original fluoride in the 70s when i was growing up and parents knew no better.
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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    One of these should do the job-

    Welcome to Fresh Water Filter Co Ltd

    However at £369 installed, I'm not sure whats better value this or buying cheap mineral water.

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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    Quote Originally Posted by shadowmaster View Post
    One of these should do the job-

    Welcome to Fresh Water Filter Co Ltd

    However at £369 installed, I'm not sure whats better value this or buying cheap mineral water.
    Yowzas! I think I'll stick to bottled water.

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    Re: Health minister plans mass medication with fluoridation

    I was totting this up last night, the RO filters are the only real way to remove all the nasties and even though they are a considerable outlay in the beginning they still work out cheaper than bottled water. Granted it takes 12-18 months to see a saving.

    I'm seriously considering doing this regardless, I value my unfettered water supply and I'm too lazy to lug gallons of expensive posh water back from the uber-market every week.

    Just gotta convince the bird now...

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