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    Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    Intel's all-singing, all-dancing Atom processor is predicted to take the mobile world by storm, but are early MID prices suggesting otherwise?
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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    I'm sorry, why do I need Windows Vista on such a tiny device?

    Give me half the processing power and an OS that's actually designed for mobile devices.
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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    This was the Atom that's being produced at a cost of 20 bucks a pop, right?

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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    Don't forget the 945 chipset. You don't get cutting edge tech like that for free.
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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    Jeebus, Vista was bad enough on a decent desktop, but on a hand-held device?
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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    Atom + basic linux platform = the way forward

    Linux has always sat on the sideline as something which only real computer enthusiasts know about or even understand. Recently, since these little mobile 'mid' pcs have started sprouting up i can see it becoming a much larger part of peoples life... best part of it being its free!
    Its time to say bye bye to expensive, bloated windows and hello to free simple linux.

    My first proper attempt at some linux machines will come this summer, so i may be wrong but if what my mates have been saying i may not turn back.

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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Atom + basic linux platform = the way forward

    Linux has always sat on the sideline as something which only real computer enthusiasts know about or even understand. Recently, since these little mobile 'mid' pcs have started sprouting up i can see it becoming a much larger part of peoples life... best part of it being its free!
    Its time to say bye bye to expensive, bloated windows and hello to free simple linux.

    My first proper attempt at some linux machines will come this summer, so i may be wrong but if what my mates have been saying i may not turn back.
    Though I can partially understand, I disagree with your assesment.
    Linux has always been the 'geeky' OS, mainstream buyers will not get into something that they do not understand.
    Windows (possible OSX) has always been designed for ease of use, short learning curve, compare that to Linux.

    One of the main problems with Linux isn't that its a Open Source product, but major software developers aren't interested in it, though i for one would be seriously interested in running Linux instead of my 6 Windows boxes if software developers would pay more attention.
    Consider Online Gaming, have the top 20 games ported over, and you will start to get more people move over, as Windows OS needs more system resources to run, compared to Linux OS.

    The time for Linux isn't just yet, but it is coming, reading the report of Microsoft maybe entering into Open Source by 2015 maybe a good idea on paper, but they are too far behind.

    Linux is and for the immediate future, an 'enthusiasts' OS (maybe incorrectly stereotyped).
    Besides, more take up on Linux, more commercial enviroments will take hold and start charging, commerce is plain and simple, where there is need, there is business.

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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    i think its a bad idea if this gets onto the whole linux vrs the wolrd debate, as it kind of misses the point.

    Its about having FULL desktop power and functionality on a portable device. Thats nifty. Been able to run any program you would on your desktop, on your MID is something.

    I think plenty of people have an irrational dislike of vista, even thou in many circumstances its faster than XP, espesaully if your using SSDs, and have 2gig of ram. Thats quite an achivement, normally later OS revisions, later kernels take up more resources in order to provide extra functionality.

    I think the problem is the name MID conjurs up the wrong image of a PDA with a working web browser.

    The notion of having a mobile device that can run the cutting edge desktop OS is a good idea, given the fact atom is ment to be cheap as chips, the price premium for this should disapear soon!
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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Atom + basic linux platform = the way forward
    Linux + fixed hardware platform = the way forward

    Without any of the hardware compatibility issues manufacturers can send you a computer with linux on that actually 'just works'. Add easy to use interface like the eepc, and maybe some touch screen goodness, and you're away.

    The screen is always going to be a limiting factor on these devices for running a full desktop OS, actual use of the device needs to be considered before just slapping XP or Vista on it and saying it's fully functional...

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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    for an "embedded" platform, the OS doesn't really matter. whether it's windows, linux, symbian, qnx, vxworks, whatever: the end user just sees the ui the product developer wants them to, and the product developer will pick the OS that's cheapest for them in both time and money to use.

    when you break outside the "embedded" space, though, you need to start worrying about app compatibility, and the ability to run *exact* apps you would on a "real" computer - say, the VPN client for some dodgy company VPN.

    if you expect microsoft office, only a "full" microsoft platform will do. it's only when you expect *functionality* rather than *specifics* that you can go back to a whatever-goes attitude

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    Re: Headlines - Atom-powered MIDs slowly cropping up, but at exorbitant prices

    I basically agree with Directhex on this.

    In my mind most people have an image of "a computer" and then there is all the rest of the gadgets & electronics - the general public doesnt worry about the operating system of their Sky+ box, of their digital watch, of their TV.... all that's required is the ability to turn it on (or always have it on) and easily use it to serve a function.

    I can forsee the 'atom' CPU being used in some embedded & 'closed' type environments where the OS won't matter, it'll be the user interface (be it a Palm OS icon driven type, a KDE or Windows type, Sky+ or whatever) that'll make or break it. The user interface and the control device anyway (be it a remote control, touch screen or whatever). Look at the iPhone, how many people know (or care) that it's a form of Mac OS X?

    What i do think is interesting is what the general public will view as being 'a computer' as time goes on...
    Is it the ability to play music, watch videos / TV, browse the internet.... if so an embedded type device (not dissimilar in fact to the original ASUS EEE laptop) might do the trick.
    If however 'a computer' is defined by it's versatility, and ability to add / remove software as the user see's fit then who knows how that'll pan out.
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