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    Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Modchipping business fights ELSPA in court... and wins!
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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Considering this is what ELSPA has been fighting against for some time, it's going to be interesting to see what they say after this verdict. They can't be happy.

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Mr Modchip has quite a good rep in the mod chipping scene.... I have heard good thins about him before...

    You know how they all argue that mod chipping is for "backups and imports"... that's mostly BS, 95+% of mod chips are used for piracy.

    They should be illegal IMO...

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Its like the case against the resale of demo CD's, just because you slap a product with 'not for resale' stickers does not make it legally binding.
    As far as I can tell, their is nothing wrong with mod-chips, yes they CAN be used for piracy, but one could say exactly the same about your adverage PC.

    Although it all depends in the type of chip you are installing really, some do very differnt things to others.

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    I got a modchip for my xbox so i could run XBMC - a bloody great program with good legit uses - not so i could play dodgy games.
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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    I got a modchip for my xbox so i could run XBMC - a bloody great program with good legit uses - not so i could play dodgy games.
    QFT - I did the same - mod chips do have some good and legit purposes - isnt there a Wii mod chip floating about that enables the Wii to play dvd movie discs?

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    I got a modchip for my xbox so i could run XBMC - a bloody great program with good legit uses - not so i could play dodgy games.
    Maybe my 95% estimate doesn't apply to the Xbox because of XBMC... but certainly for the Wii (region free can be done without chipping - you need to buy a region free disc) and the PS2 it applies imo.

    Anyway my point was that mod chips are used for illegal purposes much, much more than for legal purposes (I am not disputing that they have legal uses)

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Quote Originally Posted by vrykyl View Post
    QFT - I did the same - mod chips do have some good and legit purposes - isnt there a Wii mod chip floating about that enables the Wii to play dvd movie discs?
    Ah, but isn't that on dodgy ground as it doesn't pay the royalties for the technology?

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Quote Originally Posted by dave87 View Post
    Ah, but isn't that on dodgy ground as it doesn't pay the royalties for the technology?
    Well if he bought the DVDs..
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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    I always thought it was separate?

    Given that several companies will have technologies that will read DVDs, when he bought the DVDs the company that pressed them will pay a fee to the people whos technology they use, part of which will be passed on to the designer of the technology.

    In the same way, when a device capable of playing DVD content is produced, they will pay a similar fee, except Nintendo didn't. Ergo, unlocking the technology to do so in the Wii is not technically paying all the royalties.

    I highly doubt it would get taken to court, but if you are following the law as it is written, then its not technically within it...

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Quote Originally Posted by SiM View Post
    Mr Modchip has quite a good rep in the mod chipping scene.... I have heard good thins about him before...

    You know how they all argue that mod chipping is for "backups and imports"... that's mostly BS, 95+% of mod chips are used for piracy.

    They should be illegal IMO...
    He's got an even better reputation now. The best advert.

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Yeah it is seperate - I should of popped a smiley in there
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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Quote Originally Posted by dave87 View Post
    Ah, but isn't that on dodgy ground as it doesn't pay the royalties for the technology?
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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Well at least the ruling makes sense, it isn't the supplier that uses the product in an illegal manner.

    They would probably have a much better chance if they had a decent alternative to every legitimate use of a mod chip - like free disc swaps if your copy gets scratched beyond use.

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven W View Post
    He's got an even better reputation now. The best advert.
    lol, sorry, just though if people want to get their console chipped for legal reasons (I guess its legal) then he is more reliable then other people...

    plus doesn't the article link to his website? That's a better advert

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    Re: Headlines - Mr Modchip wins landmark mod-chipping case

    i've had a lot of problem with my 360 and it making discs unreadable - I should be allowed to use a modchip to play backups of my own games that I already own. As it stands I have to pay MS £10 to replace a disc their own console messed up.

    Piracy is illegal already lets not ban people modifiying their own property that they have paid good money for.

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