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Despite having Blu-ray at its disposable, Sony states that it believes today's disc-based delivery system will fall at the hands of digital distribution.
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Despite having Blu-ray at its disposable, Sony states that it believes today's disc-based delivery system will fall at the hands of digital distribution.
More high street shops shut and the level of obsesety grows parallel to the increase in digital convenience :)
I wonder how much of this is actually wishful thinking; currently, it seems to me that with digital distribution you frequently pay more than you would for the physical alternative from a supermarket or online store, and you get less, in the sense that it's encumbered with DRM, you don't get any nice packaging, and it's frequently a low-bitrate poor relation. Add in the fact that ISPs are seriously looking at a usage-charged model for connections and currently impose silly FUPs which downloading one SD, never mind HD, movie'd put you over, and I think they're jumping the gun a lot.
I personally like the Napster model where you pay a fee and get access to everything - similar to how Sky works - but you pull down what you want. Because right now the battle they face is some people believe that its not much of an incentive to not pirate content.
Also - I feel for the ISPs with all this data flying around...
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Originally Posted by DR
There is no reason to feel sorry for ISPs AT ALL it has been quite obvious this kind of shift in distribution was going to happen sooner or later and they should have spent the time and money on upgrading their systems and pushing BT to upgrade now archaic twisted pair backbone.
I have no time for any ISP supporting, they are tying to make the most money with the least actual benefits to the consumer.
Works well for games though. Most people complain about having to swap discs or worry about scratching them. With digital distribution there's none of those concerns. Subscription services are already up and running too, so you can pay x a month and access a huge choice.
I don't think you understand a lot of the ISPs do invest a fair bit - BT are the main people making money at the moment - and it isn't their faul thtat they are lagging behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biscuit
The other thing is- people don't want to pay for a premium service - we signed with Zen and peoples main comment was price wasn't right - yet the performance and the speed is great. People want everything for nothing - tech/support/service/advertising all costs money.
David
Yep - and there are some really smart things coming out - such as rental for minutes - then own it - Steam did a great job.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalniel
I understand these thing cost money but you cant honestly be trying to tell me that the majority of ISPs actually have the consumers at mind over their own pockets? Thusly Im pretty sure the amount they pump into BT doesnt add up to enough to actually boost BT into really doing anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by DR
Look at Tiscali, they have gone around buying quite quite a number of smaller ISPs, surely they have made a dollar or two to be able to do this? Using them as a further example, i know from experience their customer service is dreadful, speeds are far below what is advertised... yes its reasonably cheap but we were still being ripped off for what we payed.
Moved on to Aquiss and we get the same speeds on paper but i can promise you its far far superior. We get pings that are 10-20ms lower, speeds that are 200-300Kbps faster THROUGHOUT the day, much less harsh limits on downloading and to top it off the customer service is great... only for a £5-10 so more i believe. Now that line of good value for money doesnt seem to add up 5-10 pound a month more equals satisfaction in all areas? Personally im sticking to my opinion that ISPs have their own interests in mind and that alone.
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I am not doubting that they are running as businesses with the aim of making money - you are right there. I am just saying - it is going to hurt them (and thus us!) if they don't have a model which will support the increased use of bandwidth. If they don't have this model - then the prices will increase.
I will always pay that little more for the UK call centre, someone to yell at - as value is not just down to price, its down to service too.
I think it will be a long way off - too many people like to have a physical copy. Myself included.
That and I don't trust them to keep letting me access my digital data. Something like Napster is great - until their authorisation servers go down and you're left with 100 gig of music you can't listen to.
I'd rather have a DVD, or BluRay disk for a Hard copy. Sure, having your media on a PC's harddrive is handy, but drives are not reliable enough, nor is Windows. The 5inch Compact (Be it CD,DVD or BluRay) is here to stay.
Premature(by about 2 console generations tbh) but Sony are on the money. Disc's though won't die a complete death. Not for a very long time.
hard copy is best option for consoles
warhark will Not work on any of my sub accounts on my PS3, so thats the Last game i ever buy from PSN (the DRM should be linked to my sub accounts (that are linked to my prim account) that are on the PSN so any game i buy we can play on are own profiles
Small correction for you, it should read 'at its disposal' and not 'at its disposable'.
Yarr, google be the friend of Long John Silver for when thy Napster services go down like a man overboard :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent
darn....need a pirate icon....
Anyway...I think it is clear sony are goign away from disc based systems, just look at the games on the PS3 that have to be installed to the hard drive, blu ray is just so damn slow for random access IIRC that the DVD is a better choice for some games.