Beans - AMD's Kuma to pack a dual-core wallop?

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AMD's oft-delayed dual-core "Kuma" processor is nearly here, and early reports indicate speedy performance.

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I'll belive it when i see it, its not hard to create marketing hype.

The quad core phenoms were are about 10% slower than the Core2 Quads clock for clock IIRC, I don't see why the duals would be any different. The E5200 (2.5Ghz) is £53.29 at Scan, and no doubt overclocks much higher than that. Unfortunately I think it's unlikely Kuma is going to do better than that, and they don't really have much of a price range to play with below it. Even if it forces a few Intel price cuts it'll be well worth it though.:)

Although I switched to Intel when they released the Core2 range, I really hope these give Intel a run, AMD have been playing second fiddle too long IMO.

interesting...

ATI/AMD managed to take the GPU crown once again is there a chance they may be back on the up for CPUs too?

I guess believe it when we see it is the best way to look.

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Originally Posted by Biscuit

interesting...

ATI/AMD managed to take the GPU crown once again is there a chance they may be back on the up for CPUs too?

I guess believe it when we see it is the best way to look.

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Phenom Clock for clock is slower than a Core 2 Quad Kentsfield and Yorkfield.
The Kuma will not Clock beyond 3 GHz.
The Wolfdale Core 2 Duo's already clock to 3.33 GHz.

How could AMD make the Kuma faster than a CPU that has a better IPC and a higher clock speed?

i didnt mean this would get them back on top i meant are they back on track.

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Originally Posted by Biscuit

i didnt mean this would get them back on top i meant are they back on track.

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Ahh I see :)

TBH I doubt this is them being back on track. It's 9 months late.

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Originally Posted by badass

Ahh I see :)

TBH I doubt this is them being back on track. It's 9 months late.

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Depends.. Intel seem to be more or less dropping dual core products altogether - great if they can produce just as fast quads, but usually they're priced higher. A faster dual core is still better than a slower quad in the majority of situations so AMD might have a chance if they keep along the fast dual line.

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Originally Posted by kalniel

Depends.. Intel seem to be more or less dropping dual core products altogether - great if they can produce just as fast quads, but usually they're priced higher. A faster dual core is still better than a slower quad in the majority of situations so AMD might have a chance if they keep along the fast dual line.

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Intel have The Pentium Dual core, Celeron Dual core, E4000 series (being replaced with E5000 series on 45nm), E6000 Series (replaced with E8000 Series on 45nm)
They have dualies going from the very cheap all the way to the much, much faster than any Dual Core Kuma will ever be already. Even if Kuma hits 3.5 GHz, it will still be slower than an E8400 in general.

AMD's best hope is bulldozer and I really hope they can pull a commanding lead in this one.