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Articles - Five very good reasons why FIFA 09 kicks PES 2009's fat lazy arse
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Re: Articles - Five very good reasons why FIFA 09 kicks PES 2009's fat lazy arse
Did you get bored and just decide to write flame bait?
Only played PES 2009 so can't comment on FIFA but I think your missing the point... I would try FIFA but you just wasted all that space talking about things which arent really important...(to me anyway)
1) The game modes are better - who cares about game modes its only multi-player that matters!
2) Authenticity - ? really ? Im too busy playing to bothered how accurate the stadium is?
3) Presentation - ? couldnt give a rats a$$ - its about how well a game of football it plays
4) Blurring the boundaries between its videogame and the real world of football - again its about how well a game of football it plays.
5) Online stability - ? this is important and I hope PES has imporved from last year - I do however prefer to play against my mates in the same room.
So basically you have managed to miss the main point about why people play PES - IT PLAYS A GREAT GAME OF FOOTBALL
Id rather you have told me that FIFA plays a better game of football than PES and gone on to explain why rather than list pointless things like presentation...etc.. FIFA has always been better on presentation and had better kit support, so more of the same is not going to make me play FIFA.
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It's almost like you've waited 2 1/2 years to say that ;)
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munkylord if what you say is true and you do not strive for any of those things why did you buy pes 2009 i would have stuck with pes 5 or fifa 2001 (my personal favourite fifa game)
for those not interested in all the authenticity then why buy a new game every year.
these games are aimed at hardcore fans
and before you call me a fifa fanboy or whatever i have pes5 still for my xbox and still play it sometimes but also have fifa 08 and 07 and i hated 07 i thought it was terrible.
if pes had all the real players it would win for me but it's just not the same for me when frances TARRES scores a hat trick, although i do like TERRY HENRY.
And even an outsider has to admit that 3-4 years ago pes walked all over fifa and now they are pretty much on a par which means either konami have slipped or EA have really picked up there game.
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BRing on JOSH 1408 for his opinion.
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Re: Articles - Five very good reasons why FIFA 09 kicks PES 2009's fat lazy arse
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Originally Posted by
munkylord
Did you get bored and just decide to write flame bait?
Only played PES 2009 so can't comment on FIFA but I think your missing the point... I would try FIFA but you just wasted all that space talking about things which arent really important...(to me anyway)
1) The game modes are better - who cares about game modes its only multi-player that matters!
2) Authenticity - ? really ? Im too busy playing to bothered how accurate the stadium is?
3) Presentation - ? couldnt give a rats a$$ - its about how well a game of football it plays
4) Blurring the boundaries between its videogame and the real world of football - again its about how well a game of football it plays.
5) Online stability - ? this is important and I hope PES has imporved from last year - I do however prefer to play against my mates in the same room.
So basically you have managed to miss the main point about why people play PES - IT PLAYS A GREAT GAME OF FOOTBALL
Id rather you have told me that FIFA plays a better game of football than PES and gone on to explain why rather than list pointless things like presentation...etc.. FIFA has always been better on presentation and had better kit support, so more of the same is not going to make me play FIFA.
Not bored, just annoyed after playing PES 2009. So much so that I wanted to get it off my chest. I do understand why people will like PES more though - because they haven't played FIFA.Right I'm off into hiding for the rest of the day. :)
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I used to be a PES fan, but lately also transformed towards FIFA.
For me there are a couple of things important:
playability
PES used to be the leader, as it was more a simulation then arcade. Fifa was a clear arcade type of game. Now PES and Fifa have grown a lot closer towards each other, and I think it is now just personal preference. No strong winner here, but Fifa made good progress this iteration of the game. Let's see if PES did the same.
graphics
sure playability is the most important thing, but I'm not wasting tons of money on expensive TV, PS3, sound etc, to look at C64 graphics. The eye needs to be pleased as well.
Fifa is still a clear winner here.
real names
Maybe not a problem for some, but when I play nation against nation, I would like to see real names from my team and not names pretending to be real. Be the real thing, don't try to imitate the real thing.
Fifa has the edge here clearly.
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Got me PES 09 last night COME ONNNN!!!!:rockon2:
FiFa does seem to have done the business this time though!
I'll be back once I have an opinion.
usually play 3/4 players v AI team, more of a team style of play.
Higgs...Out!
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Re: Articles - Five very good reasons why FIFA 09 kicks PES 2009's fat lazy arse
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Re: Articles - Five very good reasons why FIFA 09 kicks PES 2009's fat lazy arse
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munkylord
Did you get bored and just decide to write flame bait?
LOL well if i call you a that, stew and all the PES fans are going to cause a riot over me like last time .
but lets go through what you just wrote seeing as its a friday and cant be asked to work anymore :D:
1) The game modes are better - who cares about game modes its only multi-player that matters!
In that case FIFA wins hands down, you can do online leagues, online tournaments, create your own club and cant do 10v10 online. anyone looking for a game for online MP play only will go to fifa, simple as.
2) Authenticity - ? really ? Im too busy playing to bothered how accurate the stadium is? Do you like playing with or against "north london red?" i prefer playing as/againts arsenal o and by the sounds of it, berba still plays for north london white i think there called in the game ie spurs :) Granted you can edit the teams and players to death but fifa has it ready for me from DAY 1. good luck finding a option file tonight that has all the transfers and kits up to date :) O and addidas Live season updates the stats of my fav club weekly :)
Ahh one more thing, its goood that PES has champions league mode(fifa has it built into their season mode :) ) but master league? LOL i much prefer to play in the actual format of todays football. i can choose leyton orient my local team and try to promote them all the way to the premier league and make them european champions! cant do that in master league mate without doing ALOT of editing by replacing lots of teams with the lower divisions of this country uk. too much time and effort where people can do it from day 1 in fifa.
3) Presentation - ? couldnt give a rats a$$ - its about how well a game of football it plays
Agreed and wont further comment on that
4) Blurring the boundaries between its videogame and the real world of football - again its about how well a game of football it plays.
And how well a game of football plays is usualy how it compares to the real thing :)Most people including PES fans admit that PES is less realistic
5) Online stability - ? this is important and I hope PES has improved from last year - I do however prefer to play against my mates in the same room.
Hexus tested a half empty server and it was laggy has hell, imagine tonigth when the servers get packed! usualy server+more people = more chance of lag, now a server+less/small amount of people = less lag. O and you can play with your mates in the same room with fifa too ya know :D
I look forward to your response
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Re: Articles - Five very good reasons why FIFA 09 kicks PES 2009's fat lazy arse
i gotta say i'm a new convert
been playing PES since 4, and nearly switched to fifa last year but instead kept to pro evo 6 (08 was poo!)
but this year i've played PES 09 and Fifa 09..and not only will i never play pro evo again..i doubt i'll ever play any other football game again
the leap to fifa 09 from 08 is less like a year gap and more like a generation leap - it was like the difference between gran turismo 2 and gran turismo 3, or even GTA SA and GTA 4!
but you know what clinched fifa for me ? apart from the sublime gameplay, the perfect through ball system, the player movements never being skipped or off frame...the loading segment
that little touch of being able to play kick about while the game loads for me, just screams dedication
konami got lazy and tried to rest on their laurels, EA put their hearts into FIFA
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Re: Articles - Five very good reasons why FIFA 09 kicks PES 2009's fat lazy arse
o and munkylord..go play FIFA 09, and i guarantee you'll be hooked
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Josh - I am not, never have been, and never will be a 'PES fan', nor indeed a 'FIFA fan'. I play the 2 demos, I buy the full game of the demo I enjoyed playing the most. Everything with you is 'fan' this, 'hate' that... as I've said to you before mate, I'm 27, I'm not in the playground. :)
See mate, you need to realise that 'fanboy' and 'LOL' are not discussion points, they are meaningless nonsense that you think are discussion points. :) The 'riot' was simply me attempting to explain this to you, in the hope you might stop doing it.
Steven - Regardless of your reasoning (and I agree with most of it btw) its is all trumped with the following card - PES09 is more fun to play than FIFA09. FIFA looking better, being better presented, etc, etc, can not and will not change this.
A game that looked like FIFA and played like PES would be perfect, as you can't have this, and the looks of a game wear off long before the gameplay, PES09 is the correct choice.
You make it sound as if there is a mahoosive gap between the 2 this year. IGN-UK gave FIFA09 8.6, and they gave PES09 8.5... they also said, and I quote - "there’s no doubting that PES 2009 is the most fun football game on the market."
Now, you are not 'wrong' for prefering FIFA09, that is your opinion, you are wrong, however, for making it sound in your article that there is no contest, because its pretty clear really that both games still have a place, and a lot of people, me included, are going to prefer PES.
Reasonable attempt though... its not going to stand up to scrutiny, but reasonable attempt all the same. :D
Anyway I have PES09 now, and I am very much enjoying it. If you are enjoying your copy of FIFA09 its all good. :
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@ Stewert.....so very well said!!
I am a PES player, and respect what EA have done with 09....but personally, I had the game for an hour.....then returned it too the shop and bought something else!!
Unquestionably better looking than PES, but its no fun for me to play!!
I have PES2009, which is great fun (though it has a couple of bugs) and the slated 'Legend' mode is rather enjoyable if a tad hard.
Everyone has there choice, I chose PES...first time I bought it since PES4 and I am not disappointed, what I do find rather poor, is a site like Hexus giving more than FACTS and a very opinion based slating of a game......thought they were made of better stuff!!
Anyway....Konami have an update due in early November which (they say) will sort the rosters / team (some new licenses) and do some bigfixes!!
PEACE
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Re: Articles - Five very good reasons why FIFA 09 kicks PES 2009's fat lazy arse
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Stewart
Josh - I am not, never have been, and never will be a 'PES fan', nor indeed a 'FIFA fan'. I play the 2 demos, I buy the full game of the demo I enjoyed playing the most. Everything with you is 'fan' this, 'hate' that... as I've said to you before mate, I'm 27, I'm not in the playground. :)
See mate, you need to realise that 'fanboy' and 'LOL' are not discussion points, they are meaningless nonsense that you think are discussion points. :) The 'riot' was simply me attempting to explain this to you, in the hope you might stop doing it.
well i diddnt call you a fanboy, i said your just a fan of pes because you like it right? how would u define someone that likes something over something similar?
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i still havent played pes09 but i do want it, i always thought the players looked better in pes than fifa i prefer the fact they are a lil chunkier, i always preferred pes, but since 08 i converted to fifa i dont know why, i just found it more addictive!
i think the problem with a lot of people was pes was always the 'better' underdog so to speak, fifa was the big game but the hardcore few knew smugly pro evo was better it became almost cool to be able to turn round to someone and say fifa is s**t compared to pro evo i think its those people who are unable to admit that sadly the newer fifa games have just had so much more effort put into them compared to pro evo and thats why fifa has finally defeated oro evo and thats why i now love playing fifa, its not perfect football and still annoys me especially the advantage rule where the ref lets it go but you get the ball and get booked, its like wtf you was going to let it go so how can you now book me!!
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j.o.s.h.1408
well i diddnt call you a fanboy, i said your just a fan of pes because you like it right? how would u define someone that likes something over something similar?
Yeah I know, but you say PES fan as if the fact that its PES has anything to do with it.
I play the demo of PES, I play the demo of FIFA, I buy the one that I enjoy playing the most. If FIFA was more fun to play this year, I'd have got it. I have no loyalties to either game and am not a fan of either series.
Its no big deal, but you do have a tendency to go completely over the top on these things. Apart from the 'fanboy' remarks from the other thread, you also said something about me 'loving' PES and 'hating' FIFA. :D For some reason in your mind its not a case of buying the one you think is best, its some sort of war, which has to be 'won'.
Revol has a similar stance - treat it like a playground bickering contest, where making sense comes second to fightig the corner of 'your' game at all costs.
Dunno why. :)
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i think the problem with a lot of people was pes was always the 'better' underdog so to speak, fifa was the big game but the hardcore few knew smugly pro evo was better it became almost cool to be able to turn round to someone and say fifa is s**t compared to pro evo i think its those people who are unable to admit that sadly the newer fifa games have just had so much more effort put into them compared to pro evo and thats why fifa has finally defeated oro evo
No, its because I think Pro Evo is more fun to play this time around.
Do you see?
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This again :rolleyes:
Can the admin ban themselves for an overly childish and argumentative post/review?
Firstly the authentisity of the games is not an argument, a kit server which gives proper names and kits (with sponsers) is always available soon after PES is released.
Also in fifa be a manager mode the scouting sytem is crap, the players from the lower leagues can't score unless playing in easy and players have an unearving habit of standing 10 yards too far foward for headers and you can't move them (playing some more looks like more so with players from the lower leagues again, how realistic:rolleyes:)
It stuggles to select the closest player to the ball.
Players every so often foget that your holding a button down and don't pass or cross with any power at all (goal keepers doing this is not fun!)
Then of corse there's the players you have selected that won't respond to movement input untill the opposition has the ball.
The i suppose if you reviewed the game properly you'd have spotted these things as oppossed to just playing matches with the best clubs in europe and a few online games?
The only shinning light is the be a pro mode is excellent.
And don't think i'm a PES fan boy either, i think thats crap this year aswell. Thier legend mode is just about the most boring game mode of any game ever.
To be honest i'm supprised any of the football games this year could get more than 6/10
My opinion.
PES 4/10 and fifa 6/10 Be a pro mode makes it bearable.
I'm hopeing football managers better this year, need my football fix. :)
Please note, my opinions only:mrgreen:
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Andy3536
This again :rolleyes:
Can the admin ban themselves for an overly childish and argumentative post/review?
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Firstly the authentisity of the games is not an argument, a kit server which gives proper names and kits (with sponsers) is always available soon after PES is released.
Kitserver doesnt work on the console versions and you know that these kitservers takes days if not weeks/months before a proper kitserver comes out with all the kits in unless you can find me a link now for pes09 with all the kits and squads up to date:)
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Also in fifa be a manager mode the scouting sytem is crap, the players from the lower leagues can't score unless playing in easy and players have an unearving habit of standing 10 yards too far foward for headers and you can't move them (playing some more looks like more so with players from the lower leagues again, how realistic:rolleyes:)
Does PES have a scouting system and lower leagues? can i take leyton orient into the premiership :) ?
I have played with leyton orient and have not experience the things you noted although i admit the players cant score BUT aint they suppose to be a far lesser team then the likes of united and liverpool? we cant have a leyton orient player have the finishing ability has torres?
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It stuggles to select the closest player to the ball.
Try using the right analoge stick as you can select any player within your area manualy.
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Then of corse there's the players you have selected that won't respond to movement input untill the opposition has the ball.
Really? IMO players make more runs into space but in PES they hardly do unless it has improved dramaticly in the final game.
edit: o i see what you mean. so your telling me that players that i control dont respond when the opposition doesnt have the ball? aint experienced that yet. im able to run to a lose ball freely or get into a position .
The ONLY bug i see is where when you sometimes do a through ball going past the last defender, your striker turns around and jogs backwards. THIS IS THE ONLY BIG ISSUE I HAVE WITH FIFA but other then that, its great!
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I'm really enjoying the Legend mode on PES, but each to his own.
I agree, and have said before btw, that neither PES nor FIFA are brill this year - both do something better than the other, so neither is the perfect choice.
Stevens article was a bit... strange though, not the sort of thing you expect the site reviewer to come out with.
I wonder if Revol or Josh wrote it for him? :) ;)
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Stewart
I'm really enjoying the Legend mode on PES, but each to his own.
I agree, and have said before btw, that neither PES nor FIFA are brill this year - both do something better than the other, so neither is the perfect choice.
Stevens article was a bit... strange though, not the sort of thing you expect the site reviewer to come out with.
I wonder if Revol or Josh wrote it for him? :) ;)
na he wrote it for u and andy to piss u off:)
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http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_d...kits&_osacat=0
Option files for kits for Josh on the PS3, PS2 and xbox 360 is in there aswell. And 2009.
I have proper kits for my 360 PES 2008 game.:)
The problem i have with the strikers isn't that they arn't as good as Torres. It's that they can't score at all. You still see good goals in league 2 in the real world and with the keepers being worse you would expect the amount of shots to goals would be the similar but it's not.
Strikers in league 2 just can't score at all on the harder levels. Unless the keeper punches it to one of your players or you get a first time tap in it's niegh on impossible.
And thats the whole point of manager mode, whats the point doing 15 seasons with a club that isn't at rock bottom? Can garruntee none of the reviewers tried it, anywhere.
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Andy3536
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_d...kits&_osacat=0
Option files for kits for Josh on the PS3, PS2 and xbox 360 is in there aswell. And 2009.
I have proper kits for my 360 PES 2008 game.:)
The problem i have with the strikers isn't that they arn't as good as Torres. It's that they can't score at all. You still see good goals in league 2 in the real world and with the keepers being worse you would expect the amount of shots to goals would be the similar but it's not.
Strikers in league 2 just can't score at all on the harder levels. Unless the keeper punches it to one of your players or you get a first time tap in it's niegh on impossible.
And thats the whole point of manager mode, whats the point doing 15 seasons with a club that isn't at rock bottom? Can garruntee none of the reviewers tried it, anywhere.
wow that is illegal u know, selling option files LOL. someone was selling someone elses option files a few weeks ago
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i've noticed a few ppl here posting great replies especially when it concerns their personal opinion on this topic (is this politics for the egeneration? :D)
but what i've noticed is the perticularly well structured replies come from people who's first line or overtone is complaining about the original
to me this post is a perfect compliment to hexus' usual fact-based reporting which really doesn't merit much discussion and its great to see a decent tangent to the usual infofest!
for me this is the first time i've been keeping track of a discussion on here because its great to see such passion in something as basic as their favourite sim!
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j.o.s.h.1408
wow that is illegal u know, selling option files LOL. someone was selling someone elses option files a few weeks ago
How is that illegal?
All they are doing selling files to the kits they have edited.
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There is a simple truth when it comes to football games, and its just a matter of opinion, of what the user wants, neither is right nor wrong.
Fifa, this year is an excellent game, its well presented, beautifully packaged and just oozes authenticity in its look.
Pes, on the other hand has a chunky, blocky look to its menu, the in game graphics are excellent, but it would win no prizes for its looks off the pitch!
The younger gamer, those seeking a shiny, vibrant feast for the eyes will choose FIFA. I have it, I played it for a time, there are some excellent and innovative features even if the gameplay is still a little sluggish, though a massive improvement on last years effort.
PES, appeals to the football purist, the fan of the beautiful game. It is football.
So, for a great looking game, some ten on ten action. FIFA has it, though in truth, as anybody with football in their heart will agree, it can feel a soulless endeavour. Lacking the flair and pure sporting brilliance of its rival.
PES will draw the football purists, those that can cope with a world where not everything is official, where not every menu is an art form. The very heart of football, the heart of this beautiful game beats here, and long may it continue.
Football is coming home, thank you again Konami.
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Tunnah
i've noticed a few ppl here posting great replies especially when it concerns their personal opinion on this topic (is this politics for the egeneration? :D)
but what i've noticed is the perticularly well structured replies come from people who's first line or overtone is complaining about the original
to me this post is a perfect compliment to hexus' usual fact-based reporting which really doesn't merit much discussion and its great to see a decent tangent to the usual infofest!
for me this is the first time i've been keeping track of a discussion on here because its great to see such passion in something as basic as their favourite sim!
hehe, if you dont post like this and talk like a child u will instantly get slagged off :)
andy:
i say its illegal because the people who NORMALY make such mods and files do it for free. i have never came across a creater selling his mods.
Its been known that some people downloads the mods and then sells it on ebay without the creators concent.
head over to a forum called evo web if you have not. its the number 1 place for all your modding needs for pro evo :bowdown:
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j.o.s.h.1408
hehe, if you dont post like this and talk like a child u will instantly get slagged off :)
andy:
i say its illegal because the people who NORMALY make such mods and files do it for free. i have never came across a creater selling his mods.
Its been known that some people downloads the mods and then sells it on ebay without the creators concent.
head over to a forum called evo web if you have not. its the number 1 place for all your modding needs for pro evo :bowdown:
Ok, you obviously didn't read any of the items at ebay did you, how do you think the files get on the consoles?
You pay for a memory card, not the files. It's just that the memory card has the files on it.:rolleyes:
So it's perfectly ok :)
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Andy3536
Can the admin ban themselves for an overly childish and argumentative post/review?
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Stevens article was a bit... strange though, not the sort of thing you expect the site reviewer to come out with
It seemed a bit strange to me too.
It's bad enough when 'fanboy' is mentioned on the forums. But to open and close a review with it? :O_o1: It doesn't really seem to me as if it's in jest, due to the tone of the rest of the article.
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bigblue
It seemed a bit strange to me too.
It's bad enough when 'fanboy' is mentioned on the forums. But to open and close a review with it? :O_o1: It doesn't really seem to me as if it's in jest, due to the tone of the rest of the article.
Yup, a rare mistake from old Steven. A blot on his copy book.
No real point to the article, its not actually true (the main thrust of it), he used the f-word, which I loathe, and it just seems a bit misplaced. Why is Steven posting this? :D
I know its left me scratching my head, and I'm not the only one. :)
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JonnyManc
@ Stewert.....so very well said!!
I try.
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but what i've noticed is the perticularly well structured replies come from people who's first line or overtone is complaining about the original
I try. :D
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hehe, if you dont post like this and talk like a child u will instantly get slagged off :)
Yeah, but that's not a bad thing, is it? After all there are a million other forums on the net where you can bicker like kids, and really only this one where you can have an adult discussion about video games.
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I really wanted PES to kick arse this year but it seems EA have gone all out.
Now I've decided that I'm going to get fifa over pes(1st time i will have played fifa since fifa 97) I now have to decide which version to get, PC or PS3?
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omg HEXUS, what have you become.
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A touch of honesty, I like it.
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Andy3536
Ok, you obviously didn't read any of the items at ebay did you, how do you think the files get on the consoles?
You pay for a memory card, not the files. It's just that the memory card has the files on it.:rolleyes:
So it's perfectly ok :)
Andy hows online play on PES09? i heard its a nightmare according to various users.
here is one that states even a bug on GK's in this game:
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BURNA
Right. As an experienced online player and PES editor, here is my opinion on online play on PES2009...
Communication - UNACCEPTABLE - You cannot type to each other in-game OR edit the preset in-game phrases, just choose from a list of preset ones......WHERE THE HELL HAS THE FUN GONE?????
Bugs - UNACCEPTABLE - This is what happened on EVERY one of my opponents Goal Kicks....He ran around the ball 3 or 4 times, picked it up and it somehow became a throw
YouTube - PES2009 online GK bug
Goalkeepers - STILL UNACCEPTABLE - It honestly baffles me that after last year's goalkeepers, they only improve them 20%...still leaving them 80% useless, compared to last year's 100% useless. I can't see this ever being improved by a patch. Basically, it's now obvious that they don't want to improve the goalkeepers.
Gameplay - UNACCEPTABLE - Now that i have played against another human being, it is quite obvious that the game favours the top players EVEN MORE and makes them unstoppable eg. Messi, Cronaldo and even the Mighty Park Jee Sung. Every team below the top teams CANNOT pass a ball to a team mate, it goes STRAIGHT TO the better ranked team's player. This annoyed us in PES6.....now it is EVEN WORSE. I for one don't want to play Barcelona vs Manchester United EVERY game.
I have enjoyed playing and editing ISS and Pro Evolution Soccer up until PES6.....now....no more. My experience of PES2009 is the last straw. I hugely anticipated BIG improvments on last year's disaster online, because of the fact that it WAS such a disaster.....KONAMI HAVE NOT DELIVERED AN ACCEPTABLE GAME OR ONLINE SERVICE AGAIN!!!!!
In my honest opinion, PES is now aimed directly at children and not more experienced gamers. This is not a football simulation anymore, if i was 7 years old, i'd love it because you can run past a whole team with the right player. They had the best Football simulation in the world for years....now they've screwed it up. There are so many bigger games than this that work almost faultlessly online (World of Warcraft for example)....and what do they put into PES????
But at the end of the day...they don't care.....the world is huge place full of children who's parents will buy this game.
If anyone disagrees with me and is enjoying the game, then fine...enjoy yourselves by all means. But at the moment, i am so dissappointed that Konami have taken our money again, and let us down again.
I was tempted in buying this game for £16 in tesco's yesterday but if online is broken like last year i wont bother
EDIT: Here is the video link of that GK bug. is the guy above me not playing the same game as u and others? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yLWUjkh-CdI
Also whats this all about? is this true too?
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the keepers are a total joke, the fact that they parry and spill 90%
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Josh, mate, anyone of us could go and look around a few forums, find someone mouthing off about FIFA, about how its boring, about how the 10-vs-10 online is a farce, about how its just chavs shouting at each other, everyone tries to score, and you just get pens and offsides.
I'm sick of your attempts at point scoring now.
If you want to know if PES is any good or not, play it, but please stop trying to disguise your attempts at point scoring behind these 'questions'.
You managed to find a post by someone who doesn't like PES, and you've posted it here. Big deal. Well done.
Shall I go and find a post from someone who doesn't like FIFA and post it?
No, don't think I'll bother.
Now stop being a child please. There's a good chap. :)
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is the guy above me not playing the same game as u and others?
No, he's playing the same game, he just has a different opinion.
Do you see?
Mate, if you are going to waste everyone's time with this mush, at least have the decency to write the posts yourself. :D
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I don't play online Josh i wouldn't know. Although i had herd about a goalkeeper bug. But for fifa, go figure.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tG6IeOAqYbM
Theo walcott missing
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ZIPoTc15c
Magical crossbar
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4-z81cjGmak
I've had the ball magicly go through the side of the net (on the outside) then hit the back of the net and bounce out. Shame it was still given as a goal kick.:rolleyes:
There are lots of bugs in both games :)
And the only bug i've seen in PES though is in the 9th training match in become a legend where after the match on leaving it gets back to the main menu then every time without fail i get a CTD. Not that i'm worried i didn't like become a legend anyway.
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Stewart
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Do you see?
Mate, if you are going to waste everyone's time with this mush, at least have the decency to write the posts yourself. :D
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If you want to know if PES is any good or not, play it, but please stop trying to disguise your attempts at point scoring behind these 'questions'.
i played the demo and the demo doesnt tell me the full story like how good it is online
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No, he's playing the same game, he just has a different opinion.
Yes his playing the same game but i wasnt asking andy if he thought the game was good. read my post again mate i wanted to know if online play is lag free and if that goalkeeper perrys most shots and also if that youtube game vid happens to him.
If not Andy can you post and tell us if online play is good?:O_o1:
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j.o.s.h.1408
i played the demo and the demo doesnt tell me the full story like how good it is online
Yes his playing the same game but i wasnt asking andy if he thought the game was good. read my post again mate i wanted to know if online play is lag free and if that goalkeeper perrys most shots and also if that youtube game vid happens to him.
If not Andy can you post and tell us if online play is good?:O_o1:
I didn't really want to play PES again but i'll give online a go and give an honest account of the PC version and get back.
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Online is fine on Legends mode, which is all I've played, I've heard everything from fine to quite laggy for normal online... so it varies.
The keepers are fine for me, I don't find that too many goals are scored from keeper fumbles, they don't catch very often admittedly, but they will tend to palm the ball out of play rather than spill it in the box.
Its certainly not something you'd notice, not in the single player anyway which is mostly what I've played.
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Andy3536
I don't play online Josh i wouldn't know. Although i had herd about a goalkeeper bug. But for fifa, go figure.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tG6IeOAqYbM
Theo walcott missing
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ZIPoTc15c
Magical crossbar
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4-z81cjGmak
I've had the ball magicly go through the side of the net (on the outside) then hit the back of the net and bounce out. Shame it was still given as a goal kick.:rolleyes:
There are lots of bugs in both games :)
And the only bug i've seen in PES though is in the 9th training match in become a legend where after the match on leaving it gets back to the main menu then every time without fail i get a CTD. Not that i'm worried i didn't like become a legend anyway.
AHHHH me and u are not on the same page. the links you provided gave me the impression that your comparing the PC version of FIFA:O_o1:
There is me think you was on about the console version while all along i have been comparing pes overal to the console version only of fifa as i know that fifa in the pc is bad.
before you say, pc is different then the console and how i should compare like for like, PES on the pc is a direct port from the 360 version ie it has same modes, same teams, same gameplay, same everything while the fifa on the pc as aposed to the 360 and ps3 version is like night and day.
no wonder why i have not experience the bugs u mentioned in the 2nd page of this thread.:O_o1:
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Stewart
Online is fine on Legends mode, which is all I've played, I've heard everything from fine to quite laggy for normal online... so it varies.
The keepers are fine for me, I don't find that too many goals are scored from keeper fumbles, they don't catch very often admittedly, but they will tend to palm the ball out of play rather than spill it in the box.
Its certainly not something you'd notice, not in the single player anyway which is mostly what I've played.
cheers, next time post like that instead of calling me a child ok. where suppose to be "friends" now :)
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Next time ask your own questions without hiding them behind a massive anti-PES post you found on some other forum, mate. :)
BTW - everything I say is about the 360 version of PES, I've not played or seen any other.
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i dont see what the fuss is about, i dont see any point in playing fifa or pes. It might just be me but i play a game as its something you cant do(or VERY hard to) so like playing gears of war, football i can just go out side and play with mates. I downloaded both the pes09 and fifa 09 demo on pc and graphically they were both OK and nothing more, i had more fun playing old 96 football games as tackling a player/goal keep kept me amused for ages. The cloths look like they have creases just shoved ontop as they dont move, i got bored after 30mins playing both of them.
Now im not trying to say they are both bad(although i sound like it) its probably just because i dont get much fun out of the newer football games as i used to, i dont see much change from 08-09 apart from abit better gfx and new players etc. If you like them then great, no point slaggin the other just because you think its better, its like ps3 vs 360 as there isnt an answer they both have pros and cons.
Stop bitching and just play the game is my honest opinion.
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j.o.s.h.1408
AHHHH me and u are not on the same page. the links you provided gave me the impression that your comparing the PC version of FIFA:O_o1:
There is me think you was on about the console version while all along i have been comparing pes overal to the console version only of fifa as i know that fifa in the pc is bad.
before you say, pc is different then the console and how i should compare like for like, PES on the pc is a direct port from the 360 version ie it has same modes, same teams, same gameplay, same everything while the fifa on the pc as aposed to the 360 and ps3 version is like night and day.
no wonder why i have not experience the bugs u mentioned in the 2nd page of this thread.:O_o1:
Eer no. I have the 360 version of fifa and the PC version of PES.
Those bugs i have mentioned are in the console version of fifa and also with the ball going through the side netting to hit the back of the net.
But no havn't seen the youtube vid bugs in the console version. Just the long list i laid out earlier.
Back to the origional point as to if it's still lagging. Well the PC version. Yes horribly.
The Bug with the goalkeeper happens when you try to kick out using long pass, the first time the keeper stood there untill my defender ran up to the ball and touched it then he jumped on it and dropped kicked it out. The second time the goal keeper jumped on the ball aafter just a few seconds of standing over it. So promptly started playing it short.
But yes it's still laggy and to the point where it's almost unplayable but not quite. But it does pi** you off.
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Hicks12
i dont see what the fuss is about, i dont see any point in playing fifa or pes. It might just be me but i play a game as its something you cant do(or VERY hard to) so like playing gears of war, football i can just go out side and play with mates. I downloaded both the pes09 and fifa 09 demo on pc and graphically they were both OK and nothing more, i had more fun playing old 96 football games as tackling a player/goal keep kept me amused for ages. The cloths look like they have creases just shoved ontop as they dont move, i got bored after 30mins playing both of them.
Now im not trying to say they are both bad(although i sound like it) its probably just because i dont get much fun out of the newer football games as i used to, i dont see much change from 08-09 apart from abit better gfx and new players etc. If you like them then great, no point slaggin the other just because you think its better, its like ps3 vs 360 as there isnt an answer they both have pros and cons.
Stop bitching and just play the game is my honest opinion.
Yeah Steven... GROW UP! :D
I don't want to read through this bickering while I'm eating my breakfast.
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No, its because I think Pro Evo is more fun to play this time around.
Do you see?
My comment wasnt aimed at you, or anyone in particular.
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After all the....er, um, "debate" over FIFA or PES, dare I ask the following:
FIFA 09 - 360 or PS3? :p
Seriously, I cannot find any where that seems to compare the two....Are they identical?
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shaithis
After all the....er, um, "debate" over FIFA or PES, dare I ask the following:
FIFA 09 - 360 or PS3? :p
Seriously, I cannot find any where that seems to compare the two....Are they identical?
yea there identical. same features, gameplay and graphics
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Interesting point, my mate at work has the PC version of fifa and his brother has the 360 version.
He say the PC version is better and none of the bugs i was talking about he's seen.
Any thoughts (sencible, and from those that have played both) as to how the PC version compares to the console version?
The demo for the PC version doesn't give much away.
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Is anyone actually still playing Fifa now that PES is out?
I feel compelled to ask, having both games, and the opportunity to directly compare the both.
As much as I enjoyed Fifa, its light years behind the frankly awesome new PES.
Oh, and to answer an earlier question (and again I have both) The 360 is far superior in most gameplay regards to the PS3. In fact I use my Sony machine only for bluray movies now.
Xbox 360 is the future.
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Mawson
Is anyone actually still playing Fifa now that PES is out?
I feel compelled to ask, having both games, and the opportunity to directly compare the both.
As much as I enjoyed Fifa, its light years behind the frankly awesome new PES.
Oh, and to answer an earlier question (and again I have both) The 360 is far superior in most gameplay regards to the PS3. In fact I use my Sony machine only for bluray movies now.
Xbox 360 is the future.
I can only assume you are on a wind up on both points.
PES is a joke compared to FIFA, an arcade game for people who have little understanding of football or who do but just want cheap easy thrills over realism and pay off.
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Or a football game that is (imo) more fun to play than FIFA.
Revol, this weird habbit you have, of constantly trying to make anyone who disagrees with you out to be a fool in some way... 'has no understanding of football', 'just want cheap thrills', do you do it for a reason?
I mean, I'd assume that people who play PES play it because they enjoy it more, and people who play FIFA play it because they enjoy that more.
Apparently, you assume that anyone who plays the one that you don't play, is some sort of imbecile.
Now, I'll ask you directly - why do you do this? Are you angry about something in life, and you blow off steam by doing this, or is there some other reason?
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I guess pes is like grid then? you get the hardcore sim racing games but grid=decent gfx and very fun to play :P. I still think football on the commadore was the best.
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Out of interest have any of you played PES08 on the Wii?, the game where so many different possibilities come up with the control system?.
I say this as i've played the new demo's of Fifa09 and since having PES08 and being able to play the most sublime passes ever, exactly where i want it to go, moving players off the ball with the remote while running with the ball on the nunchuck the rest of the games seem so boring.
TiG
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Stewart
Or a football game that is (imo) more fun to play than FIFA.
Revol, this weird habbit you have, of constantly trying to make anyone who disagrees with you out to be a fool in some way... 'has no understanding of football', 'just want cheap thrills', do you do it for a reason?
I mean, I'd assume that people who play PES play it because they enjoy it more, and people who play FIFA play it because they enjoy that more.
Apparently, you assume that anyone who plays the one that you don't play, is some sort of imbecile.
Now, I'll ask you directly - why do you do this? Are you angry about something in life, and you blow off steam by doing this, or is there some other reason?
You might notice some symmetry hear, no? You claim PES is more fun to play and I say that 'fun' needs defining against criteria. My opinion about FIFA and PES is one shared by almost every professional critic and the thousands of previous PES fans (like myself) who are deserting the dead horse of PES in their droves.
PES used to be the most realistic game of football that put reward and depth above one dimensional arcadey gameplay but now the roles have reversed and I'm left baffled how people who loved PES of old can continue to put up with it since it has become everything it stood against in relation to earlier FIFA's.
You're entitled to your view but you might want to consider why it is completely at odds with the vast majority of reviewers and the majority of gamers.
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revol68
You might notice some symmetry hear, no? You claim PES is more fun to play and I say that 'fun' needs defining against criteria. My opinion about FIFA and PES is one shared by almost every professional critic and the thousands of previous PES fans (like myself) who are deserting the dead horse of PES in their droves.
PES used to be the most realistic game of football that put reward and depth above one dimensional arcadey gameplay but now the roles have reversed and I'm left baffled how people who loved PES of old can continue to put up with it since it has become everything it stood against in relation to earlier FIFA's.
You're entitled to your view but you might want to consider why it is completely at odds with the vast majority of reviewers and the majority of gamers.
PES is actually top of all top seller lists at play.com.
Although more people will play fifa, there's not going to be much difference.
It's not all that realistic for players to stand too far foward for a header, niether is it realistic that league 2 strikers can't score.
So back to the origional point i was trying to make, has anyone got a good comparison between the PC and console version of fifa (educated opinion)
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<snip usually nonsense>
No, you obviously didn't read what I wrote.
I'm not interested in your opinion, or indeed the opinion of 'every other reviewer', which is, by the way, something you made up.
I asked why you constantly throw out abusive terms, such as 'knows nothing about football', etc, etc.
On the subject of PES, as I've said before, I played the FIFA09 demo, I played the PES09 demo, I decided PES was more fun, I got PES.
Now, read that over and over until you understand. Its nothing to do with me being a fool. Its nothing to do with me knowing nothing about video games. Its nothing to do with me knowing nothing about football.
I thought PES was more enjoyable to play, so... wait for it... wait for it... I got PES.
I have no idea why you think I'd need to justify my own personal opinion against your criteria. :D
'I like apples' 'Oh yeah, well I don't and nor does my friend, so justify to me why apples are tasty!'
Now unless you have something to add that isn't along the lines of 'OMFG11! Anyone who plays PES is a spastic!!1 LOL!11!', I think thats an end of it.
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Stewart
<snip usually nonsense>
No, you obviously didn't read what I wrote.
I'm not interested in your opinion, or indeed the opinion of 'every other reviewer', which is, by the way, something you made up.
I asked why you constantly throw out abusive terms, such as 'knows nothing about football', etc, etc.
On the subject of PES, as I've said before, I played the FIFA09 demo, I played the PES09 demo, I decided PES was more fun, I got PES.
Now, read that over and over until you understand. Its nothing to do with me being a fool. Its nothing to do with me knowing nothing about video games. Its nothing to do with me knowing nothing about football.
I thought PES was more enjoyable to play, so... wait for it... wait for it... I got PES.
I have no idea why you think I'd need to justify my own personal opinion against your criteria. :D
'I like apples' 'Oh yeah, well I don't and nor does my friend, so justify to me why apples are tasty!'
Now unless you have something to add that isn't along the lines of 'OMFG11! Anyone who plays PES is a spastic!!1 LOL!11!', I think thats an end of it.
How many times now? I'm simply asking you to explain WHY you prefer PES, WHY you think it is more fun to play, and what ofcourse what your criteria for measuring fun is. It's hardly unreasonable to ask such questions in a discussion comparing two games. I've gave my reasons as to why I prefer FIFA and I have tied them into why I've previously went for the PES games (up till 2008), I'm simply asking that you give some reasons for your opinion, afterall if all discussion stopped at 'I like it' or if reviewers simply said "Crap game, didn't like it" it'd be a pretty poor showing.
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Why?
Well, maybe its just because I've had contact with the FIFA series over the years, from right back on the MegaDrive, through all the consoles, right up to today, so I'm over exposed to it, and bored of it.
PES, on the other hand, I've not played previously.
Specifically though, I liked the flow of PES09 over FIFA09, within a few games I was knocking the ball around at will, having goal mouth scrambles, heading free kicks off the line, etc.
FIFA was a more studied pass, pass, pass, shoot. Goal kick. Pass, pass, pass, shoot. Goal kick.
If thats what you are looking for, great.
Another issue was the way the ball, on FIFA, doesn't feel like an independent entity. Sometimes you feel that when you do a certain action, say a high pass, whatever, the game engine decides whats going to happen, then you watch it happen, you can't influence it.
As an example, I'd throw the ball with my keeper to a player of mine, as it was rolling towords him I'd notice that a player on the other team was running towords the ball and would get to it before the ball got to my player.
So I'd try to move my player to the ball, rather than waiting for it to come to me, and he just wouldn't move. The game engine has already decided that the opposition gets the ball, and I have to just watch it happen, because the ball isn't an independent entity.
Its something thats bugged me in previous FIFAs, so as soon as it happened in 09, i was open to an alternative. PES seemed to be more free flowing - I didn't get any situations where I had to watch a pre determined series of events play out, what happened was down to me.
Also it was the right balance of arcady and sim. Enough sim to be a believable game of football, arcady enough to actually be enjoyable to play, and not feel like a job.
FIFA was the game I'd played a million times before, with the same little niggles that annoy me. PES was fresh, the ball fizzes and pops around in a more pleasing fashion, and was more enjoyable.
I've been playing video games for many a year, and it was very clear to my trained eye after an hour or two with the respective demos that FIFA looked better, PES played better. In my opinion, the looks, whilst nice, are not as important as actually enjoying the game, 6 months down the line.
And that, me old cocker, in a nutshell, was why I got PES.
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revol68
I can only assume you are on a wind up on both points.
PES is a joke compared to FIFA, an arcade game for people who have little understanding of football or who do but just want cheap easy thrills over realism and pay off.
Not at all, both are informed opinions having played both games and both formats.
FIFA continues to lack the flare and gameplay of PES, yes, sure, FIFA looks shiny but (yawn) thats not enough for the true football fan.
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Mawson
Not at all, both are informed opinions having played both games and both formats.
FIFA continues to lack the flare and gameplay of PES, yes, sure, FIFA looks shiny but (yawn) thats not enough for the true football fan.
LOL, have you played FIF 09 on the PS3 or 360, it's ten times more realistic than PES2009 and I say that as someone who was a PES player till 2008.
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revol68
LOL, have you played FIF 09 on the PS3 or 360, it's ten times more realistic than PES2009 and I say that as someone who was a PES player till 2008.
LOL? its just a football game, go play outside for a few mins. No one is right and no one is rwrong, why do you have to say everyone is wrong if they have a different opinion?. It isnt 10 times more realistic, i played both fifa 09 and pes 09 and I DONT PLAY FOOTBALL GAMES so my opinion is less bias :P and they both are OK nothing ground breaking and they are both similar.
Also pc is a pes 09 winner because fifa 09 is shocking on there but for consoles they are both similar, pros and cons.
Download fifa 09 on pc since you support them illegal torrents, will save you some money and you can find some more amazing points about it.
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Hicks12
LOL? its just a football game, go play outside for a few mins. No one is right and no one is rwrong, why do you have to say everyone is wrong if they have a different opinion?. It isnt 10 times more realistic, i played both fifa 09 and pes 09 and I DONT PLAY FOOTBALL GAMES so my opinion is less bias :P and they both are OK nothing ground breaking and they are both similar.
Also pc is a pes 09 winner because fifa 09 is shocking on there but for consoles they are both similar, pros and cons.
Download fifa 09 on pc since you support them illegal torrents, will save you some money and you can find some more amazing points about it.
I've got FIFA 09 on the PC, it's pish and if I didn't have a 360 i'd be stuck with PES2009 on the PC as the best football game available to me, however FIFA 09 on the 360 and PS3 wipes the floor with PES2009.
I've played alot of football games and was a massive fan of the old Pro Evo's but PES2008 was a massive step back whilst FIFA 08 was a leap forward. PES2009 is a step forward from PES2008 but doesn't have what it takes to get near FIFA 09, it's barely a tip toe past PES6.
I think the trade in market will pass the final judgement on PES2009.
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Originally Posted by
Hicks12
LOL? its just a football game, go play outside for a few mins. No one is right and no one is rwrong, why do you have to say everyone is wrong if they have a different opinion?. It isnt 10 times more realistic, i played both fifa 09 and pes 09 and I DONT PLAY FOOTBALL GAMES so my opinion is less bias :P and they both are OK nothing ground breaking and they are both similar.
Also pc is a pes 09 winner because fifa 09 is shocking on there but for consoles they are both similar, pros and cons.
Download fifa 09 on pc since you support them illegal torrents, will save you some money and you can find some more amazing points about it.
can u specify how they are similar please?
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oh god, they are both football games and so far they both have their ups and downs so they even themselves out. I wouldnt say any of them are HUGELY better because that is certainly not true, its a matter of opinion which is why no one is completely wrong. GFX they are similar, gameplay they are similar apart from fifa has the paspaspaspas shoot sorta thing.
Im leaving this topic as its crap :P.
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Hicks12
oh god, they are both football games and so far they both have their ups and downs so they even themselves out. I wouldnt say any of them are HUGELY better because that is certainly not true, its a matter of opinion which is why no one is completely wrong. GFX they are similar, gameplay they are similar apart from fifa has the paspaspaspas shoot sorta thing.
Im leaving this topic as its crap :P.
no1 is wrong but try and post reasons why instead of saying there both the same, end of post sort of thing lol.
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Good points raised.
So to try and be constructive, here goes.
First, I played FIFA 2009 for a period of 2 weeks, before playing the new PES 2009. So I've immersed myself in both games.
I played both on my 360, I also have purchased both on the PS3, but traded them in, the PS3 simply does not compete, but thats another matter.
FIFA is actually pretty good, it looks lovely and has all the licences. I know this is important to some people. However, its gameplay is still flawed.
It is slow, cumbersome, and doesn't allow for the skill of individual players to come into play fully. Players feel like they are on rails, perhaps following a pre-determined path, this thankfully is not the case with PES where the individual players move with a great deal more fluidity.
In essence, that is the core difference between the two, that and some AI issues with FIFA that remain from numerous editions in the past.
FIFA then is just not as skilled at presenting the beautiful game as it should be, there are those players that can forgive this because it looks shiny, some may accuse these players of being shallow, far be it for me to make such an assumption!
I however find myself unable to forgive this in FIFA, I always have preferred gameplay over looks, for this reason I remain a PES player. As I have done every couple of years, I have given FIFA a very thorough play, given it every chance to impress me. Again, it failed.
Mawson out.