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    News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    Studies show that three PC games available via BitTorrent have now surpassed 1,000,000 downloads. Ouch.
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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    Yes, all that DRM was ever so effective, wasn't it?
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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    I think a lot of the problem is the perception that its an ok thing to do drm or not, look at world of goo, 90+% piracy rate they reckon, a similar amount for the other game the company released that did have drm so it doesn't make a huge difference.
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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    I thought it'd be way more than that actually - for such a popular game. It's fairly obvious that the more popular a game is the more people will download it, so I guess DRM is doing something if it's keeping the numbers down.

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    DRM (newer versions of Securom) is also to keep down the number of 2nd hand sales of games as much as anything.

    Rather than total number of downloads it would be more interesting to know the ratio between purchases:downloads on games. Also how many people who downloaded the game went out to buy it afterwards.

    Without those sorts of figures the total downloads doesn't really mean anything other than the game was popular, which we already knew.

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    The site reported 1.7m illegal downloads of Spore since the game was released in September 2008.

    Electronic Arts (EA) said it sold nearly 2m copies of the game.

    TorrentFreak said that Spore's Digital Rights Management (DRM) software - which came in for considerable criticism when the game was released - was one of the reasons the game was so prolifically pirated.
    Sounds about right.

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    And if they hadn't used DRM and passed the saving on to the customer the number buying the game would be up and the number pirating down, yet the're still using it.

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3536 View Post
    And if they hadn't used DRM and passed the saving on to the customer the number buying the game would be up and the number pirating down
    You're just making that up. Might as well say if they didn't use DRM then the number pirating would be 10x higher and the number buying the game would be lower. There's no DRM of note on Fallout 3 and yet it's been pirated far worse than Spore in terms of downloads to sales ratio.

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    You're just making that up. Might as well say if they didn't use DRM then the number pirating would be 10x higher and the number buying the game would be lower. There's no DRM of note on Fallout 3 and yet it's been pirated far worse than Spore in terms of downloads to sales ratio.
    Your just making that up
    So if they sold them cheaper they wouldn't sell more ?

    There's been links posted on here in threads where people from the gaming industry have said DRM does more harm than good.

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    anyone else feel spore was a bit of a let down?

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3536 View Post
    So if they sold them cheaper they wouldn't sell more ?
    Not significantly.

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    In my opinion, not significantly.
    Some problems with your post, corrected for you

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3536 View Post
    Some problems with your post, corrected for you
    I don't see any change

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    You're just making that up.

    The same can be said for every single argument against DRM and for DRM. Every 'fact' that is stated is horribly inaccurate and should never, ever be used to create official statements.

    My opinion on the matter is that spore was not pirated as much as you thought was because it was such a bad game even the pirates couldn't be bothered to get it. And saying DRM affects the number of downloads is just wrong. If I have ever thought of downloading a game, the fact that it has DRM makes no difference because within 1 or 2 days it'll be fully cracked.

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    fallout 3 does have drm

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    Re: News - Spore leads top 10 list of most pirated games

    Quote Originally Posted by educatedfool View Post
    The same can be said for every single argument against DRM and for DRM. Every 'fact' that is stated is horribly inaccurate and should never, ever be used to create official statements.
    That was my point

    Quote Originally Posted by magneticman View Post
    fallout 3 does have drm
    The game itself doesn't, only the launcher.

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