News - Tosh touts world's first half-terabyte laptop SSD

[HEXUS]

Toshiba has developed what it claims is the world?s first 512GB 2.5in solid-state drive.

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[moogle]

£2000 I say, possibly more
Can't wait for these to start becoming more mainstream and cheaper.

[Breezey]

£2000 I say, possibly more
Can't wait for these to start becoming more mainstream and cheaper.

And the rest, give it a few years maybe we will see a reduction in price.

[moogle]

And the rest, give it a few years maybe we will see a reduction in price.

Ugh, I hope my storage will last that long
What I do like about it is that most likely when they are the norm we'll have lots of reviews on them I think. I like that because you don't see many hard drive reviews around like you see CPU and GPU ones.

[TAKTAK]

hmmm, seems a load of tosh to me.





/me gets coat

[matty-hodgson]

do SSDs still have their read/write limit?
cos surely if these are to be used in a laptop, having them as the only drive will mean they have a very short lifespan?

[TheAnimus]

do SSDs still have their read/write limit?
cos surely if these are to be used in a laptop, having them as the only drive will mean they have a very short lifespan?

MLC is worse than SLC.

Even MLC will outlast the useful life of the lappy.

[Biscuit]

at least its finally happening

No more moving parts FTW!

[aidanjt]

Is it going to retail for £50?.. If not, it can't compete with mechanical. Capacity isn't the real problem with SSDs, it's the value, and reliablity of the devices.

[Biscuit]

but the introduction of higher volumes drives may gradually start to reduce the cost of smaller ones, i didn't say its happened i said its happening.
The obstacle they face is that magnetic drives are so cheap people arnt buying into the newer technology so there isnt enough pull from the market for them to go into serious mass production.

[matty-hodgson]

the way SSDs are going atm, we're gonna see 5TB on 1 SSD very soon.
how long did it take for HDDs to get from 80GB to 500GB?

i'm all for supporting SSDs and think they're a great idea, just don't think anyone has the money.

[Funkstar]

the way SSDs are going atm, we're gonna see 5TB on 1 SSD very soon.

Which would be great!

To get that quantity of data in one SSD, you would need to increase the density of the cips inside them.

This photo is a good illustration:


That little board will be the same on 1.8" drives and 2.5" drives. Assuming they stick to this form factor, they are limited to 64MB chips. If they were to get 128MB chips to produce a 1TB SSD, they could also produce a 128MB SSD for around the same price as a current 64GB SSD.

All thats over simplified, but you get the idea I'm sure

[DataMatrix]

Can't wait to stick a few of these in a RAID 5 array

[aidanjt]

but the introduction of higher volumes drives may gradually start to reduce the cost of smaller ones, i didn't say its happened i said its happening.
The obstacle they face is that magnetic drives are so cheap people arnt buying into the newer technology so there isnt enough pull from the market for them to go into serious mass production.

Yes, it's a classic chicken and egg problem, as far as getting the price down. But that still doesn't alter the fact that the technology is inherently detrimental to data. You wouldn't use a filesystem that started randomly placing flipped bits on certain blocks after a few thousand writes. And that's pretty much what you get with SSD.

[dangel]

Yes, it's a classic chicken and egg problem, as far as getting the price down. But that still doesn't alter the fact that the technology is inherently detrimental to data. You wouldn't use a filesystem that started randomly placing flipped bits on certain blocks after a few thousand writes. And that's pretty much what you get with SSD.

Or, looking at it another way, you wouldn't use a filesystem that had lots of mechanical moving parts which, when it *does* pile over often results in total data loss. And that's pretty much what you get with HDD. And so we have redundancy in RAID, and backup solutions. Would having SSD negate those? Probably not. The USPs are speed, shock resistance and power consumption I guess. My (limited) experience of SSD is positive though - and that's very much at the low-end of the market.

Sadly, there probably isn't a file storage medium out there that's ever going to be absolutely safe - at least not for us mere consumers.

[aidanjt]

Or, looking at it another way, you wouldn't use a filesystem that had lots of mechanical moving parts which, when it *does* pile over often results in total data loss. And that's pretty much what you get with HDD. And so we have redundancy in RAID, and backup solutions. Would having SSD negate those? Probably not. The USPs are speed, shock resistance and power consumption I guess. My (limited) experience of SSD is positive though - and that's very much at the low-end of the market.

Sadly, there probably isn't a file storage medium out there that's ever going to be absolutely safe - at least not for us mere consumers.

Well yes, if you make a habit of violently shaking your HDD while it's operating then yes, your data wont be safe. But then you're an idiot, and you shouldn't be allowed near technology in the first place.