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    News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    We've been under the impression that smaller cards are a good thing, but MSI is nothing but proud of its "extra large" R4870.
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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    Nice card, but VGA out?.. What was MSI thinking?
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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    Why go to effort of putting a VGA output when they could just throw a &#163;2 DVI<>VGA converter in the box, like everyone else?

    I could understand on a card aimed at another audience, but this is a high end card with what is basically an aftermarket cooler pre-applied. If it was AGP or aimed a lower market segment I might understand but it seems like a waste of time. The only reason I can think of is that 2DVI's and a HDMI wouldn't fit, but that just comes back to the &#163;2 converter argument.

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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Nice card, but VGA out?.. What was MSI thinking?
    Probably the same as the 4 or 5 other companies who also sell 4-series cards with VGA-out - that there are people who still use old CRT monitors or who are operating on a tighter budget and opt to go for a monitor that doesn't have DVI, but who also don't want lots of big heavy dongles sticking out of their computer.

    Although, to be fair, it makes more sense in the low midrange cards that are likely to be used as upgrades from IGPs or put into HTPCs than in a higher-end gaming card like a 4870...

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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    The reason they included a VGA (I imagine) is because you can not convert HDMI to DSub so if you were running a duel monitor setup of which one monitor was DVI the other D-Sub then you would need to have a dongle to convert the HDMI to DVI-D and then another to convert the DVI-I port to DSUB which would be quite messy. What they have actually done is removed the 9pin Din port which could have been used for input or s-video output, though I guess not many people still use that.

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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    Do they still provide a DDC signal over the VGA out though?.. that would be very handy.

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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    Quote Originally Posted by Webby View Post
    The reason they included a VGA (I imagine) is because you can not convert HDMI to DSub so if you were running a duel monitor setup of which one monitor was DVI the other D-Sub then you would need to have a dongle to convert the HDMI to DVI-D and then another to convert the DVI-I port to DSUB which would be quite messy. What they have actually done is removed the 9pin Din port which could have been used for input or s-video output, though I guess not many people still use that.
    Thats what i was thinking. DVI and HDMI are pretty much the same so there isnt really any connectivity lost unless either you use an old composite or S-Video adapter for your SD TV or your HDTV is component only. Saying that, cant VGA be coverted to componant?

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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    Forget VGA. I want display port on all the new top end cards
    (Not that display port has any use yet - but would be nice to be future proofed)

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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    Display port doesnt offer a great deal over DVI/HDMI from what i have heard...

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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Display port doesnt offer a great deal over DVI/HDMI from what i have heard...
    DisplayPort is electrically compatible with both DVI and HDMI, natively it has the strenghts of both, but none of the weaknesses.
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    Re: News - MSI launches a custom Radeon HD 4870 with a big ol' fan

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    DisplayPort is electrically compatible with both DVI and HDMI, natively it has the strenghts of both, but none of the weaknesses.
    Just did a quick bit of research and so it does. Complete opposite from what i had read previously.

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