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    News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    40nm RV870 to herald DirectX 11 GPUs in July? Specification revealed?
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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    was hopin to hear about something more groundbreaking than just more of the same really, even if it is twice as fast.

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    was hopin to hear about something more groundbreaking than just more of the same really, even if it is twice as fast.
    groundbreaking how? first dx11 parts and a huge chunk faster than a 4870x2 sounds tasty tasty to me
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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    was hopin to hear about something more groundbreaking than just more of the same really, even if it is twice as fast.
    It's twice as fast, full DX11 capable, uses the new 40nm process.. how much more groundbreaking do you want?

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    was hopin to hear about something more groundbreaking than just more of the same really, even if it is twice as fast.
    Er, what ground do you want broken? Flashing lights? Tea-making facilities?

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    was hopin to hear about something more groundbreaking than just more of the same really, even if it is twice as fast.
    Its all rumours but good to know a rough idea of dates and specs and that ATI is on the war path and keeping the heat on Nvidia.

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelviticus View Post
    Tea-making facilities?
    Oooh! that would be nice!

    If this is so much more powerful than current cards, what are the chances of an under clocked version with a low profile passive cooler that is roughly equivalent to current high end cards?

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    Oooh! that would be nice!

    If this is so much more powerful than current cards, what are the chances of an under clocked version with a low profile passive cooler that is roughly equivalent to current high end cards?
    I expect they'll do a new version of the 4770 with the new dx11 shaders.

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    what i meant was compared with the GT300 rumours which are promising the start of a shift towards cGPU this is nothing particualy stunning.

    i0D posted this link in this thread.

    Dropping to 40nm, great might see some cooler faster chips with better power and maybe cheaper? doesnt make a huge difference to the actual cards progression though, just facilitates it.

    First DX11 chip ok il give you that but from the specs it seems to be pretty much just an upgraded 4 series architecture. Guess we will have to wait and see to know for sure.

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    Oooh! that would be nice!

    If this is so much more powerful than current cards, what are the chances of an under clocked version with a low profile passive cooler that is roughly equivalent to current high end cards?
    zip-zero-none

    Your under-powered version is the 4770.. well, I guess when the 4750 hits it could have passive coolers.

    The speculation seems like a huge jump over a pretty short period of time.. I guess, as has been said above, ATi wants to be aggressive and reclaim that ultra-reputable "best enthusiast GPU" crown.

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    what i meant was compared with the GT300 rumours which are promising the start of a shift towards cGPU this is nothing particualy stunning.
    Erm, cGPU.. because even cheap-as-chips CPUs aren't overpowered these days. Until nvidia can sell you one chip to do both gpu and cpu work, their innovation is just as incremental, if not less so, as ATi pushing graphical power forward.

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    First DX11 chip ok il give you that but from the specs it seems to be pretty much just an upgraded 4 series architecture. Guess we will have to wait and see to know for sure.
    Standard tick-tock development cycle though. On the Tick you change the architecture and tweek the process. On the Tock you tweek the architecture and change the process.

    Intel have been very open about this all through the life of Core2 and on to i7 and i5.

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    I want ATI to continue whipping Nvidia in the low power usage stakes..

    Low Power Consumption
    *AND*
    Great Performance


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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    Standard tick-tock development cycle though. On the Tick you change the architecture and tweek the process. On the Tock you tweek the architecture and change the process.

    Intel have been very open about this all through the life of Core2 and on to i7 and i5.
    Has that continued to really apply in the graphics cards world?

    Which part of ATIs has been the tick and tock with their 2 3 and 4 series?

    Sorry to ask a lot of explanation but i was under the impression that was just Intel's way of looking at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Methanoid View Post
    I want ATI to continue whipping Nvidia in the low power usage stakes..

    Low Power Consumption
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    I thought the 4 series ATI cards where only better power consumption than the GTX series when you dont count idle power.... which in my book is a bit silly

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Has that continued to really apply in the graphics cards world?

    Which part of ATIs has been the tick and tock with their 2 3 and 4 series?

    Sorry to ask a lot of explanation but i was under the impression that was just Intel's way of looking at it.
    I couldn't say for sure, I don't pay that close attention to the graphics card market. I think Intel are known for it, but it is common practise in many other companies, product sectors and markets. They might not call it tick-tock, but you will have an evolutionary step and then a revolutionary step. The second will be in development while the first is also in progress.

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    I thought the 4 series ATI cards where only better power consumption than the GTX series when you dont count idle power.... which in my book is a bit silly
    4670 has awesome idle and load power figures compared to Nvidia...

    BTW, details leaking of 5850 models too. Found this by accident....

    http://blog.daum.net/csb2042/16885664 (need to read Chinese!)

    EDIT http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...20&sl=ko&tl=en

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    Re: News - ATI Radeon HD 5870 hits the rumour mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Methanoid View Post
    4670 has awesome idle and load power figures compared to Nvidia...
    But isnt that compared to the 9600GT which is considerably faster?

    I dont tend to follow the mid-low market too much in all fairness i tend to stick to the higher and lower (htpc style).

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