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About LinkBacksRead more.Microsoft's Vista successor is on schedule to hit stores in 150 days, but pricing could be a barrier, warns Dell.
Read more.Microsoft's Vista successor is on schedule to hit stores in 150 days, but pricing could be a barrier, warns Dell.
Wonderful news... Well, let's see what the official stance is on the price, it's still speculation at the moment..
Yep, that's all I want to know now. At least with the RC's lengthy trial period I'll have a chance to spread any purchases, although I've no idea what changes Microsoft will implement between RC and RTM...Originally Posted by pollaxe
Since I will need 3 licenses, I'm really hoping for some pricing love from Microsoft.
In reality, I'm not that confident, and it may just be more fuel added to the fire to look at alternatives.
So people who've bought vista get screwed over again with higher prices to buy what is basically vista sp2.
As it was vista was too expensive for any other than the crappy basic version.
Sure we have to wait for official pricing but its no surprise to hear (from a reputable source) that Microsoft will again make the same greedy grubby mistakes as far as pricing goes. And of course, dont forget, that in the UK we get double ripped.
Apple get the pricing right £80 no quibbles.
Whoever is responsible for licensing needs to pull their heads to somewhere with daylight and realise profits and goodwill will flow from correct pricing.
Resentment and Piracy will follow if it doesnt
I think we already know what direction we are headed
The sole reason why I will be sticking with Vista for now. I paid £110 for an OEM Vista Ultimate DVD/Licence a year ago and I am not paying another likely £110 for a Win7 Ultimate OEM for the few extra's you get with Win 7 that I would actually use at home. As my PC was built for gaming I can't really justify moving to Win 7 just yet. Only saving grace is, if work get it I can get a licence for around £40 through the UniThen I will get Win 7 until there is a real need for me to buy my own copy.
Who is forcing you to buy Windows 7? Microsoft aren't going to stop supporting Vista on 15th October, you know. In fact, it's part of the Microsoft Support Lifecycle Policy - they continue to support and develop software for 5 years from release or 2 years from successor release, whichever is longer. So Vista will continue to get security, hotfixes and "Design changes and feature requests". For Vista (worldwide release January 2007) it'll remain supported until January 2012 - more than 2 years after the release of Windows 7. So stop whinging - if the price of Windows 7 bothers you stick with Vista or switch to Linux: no-one's forcing you to buy anything.
As with any new OS, I'll wait some months until SP1 is released before thinking about it. Hence why I'm still on XP
No one is forcing me to do anything. I run a mac..
Doesn't stop MS from ripping people off.
And Macs/Apple dont?
As I have an MSDN, I get W7 anyway
By the time Windows 7 hits its public release, I'll have been using Vista x64 Ultimate for over 2 years (I'd been dual booting XP and Vista betas/RCs before that). Cost me 90 odd quid for the OEM version. I don't consider that a rip off by any standards - that's less than a pound a week to give me a stable environment to work and play on the hardware of my choosing. I've no regrets having spent that much, never given it a second thought.
In so far as Windows is too expensive *anyway*, yes, MS rips people off. But if MacOS is £80 (as someone said earlier in this thread), then frankly I think that's a rip off too. In fact, I think pretty much all commercial software is a rip off, not because I want it for free, but because it's a volume return on a single investment. I just think operating systems are a more clear example, because every computer *must* have an operating system. So in a sense you've got a captive market of hundreds of millions of units. Windows is so dominant that it's hard to see how they can justify such high costs when they are shifting such high volumes as well...
In so far as they release new versions of windows every 2 - 4 years and try to persuade people to upgrade, that's just business. If you go down that line you might as well be saying that everyone who bought Windows 95 is being ripped off because they can't upgrade to Windows 7 for free.
Microsoft have decided internally that there are sufficient new features in Windows 7 that they can market it as a new operating system. That's their perogative - so there's no point in Vista users saying "But thet's not fair, they would've given us all this new functionality for free if Vista had made a better media impact on release". There's no way to know that - and > 2.5 years is a perfectly reasonable gap between releases, frankly.
Quite apart from that, they will continue offering support and upgrades (in the form of security fixes, hotfixes and change requests / new feature) to Windows Vista users until the beginning of 2012 - i.e. two and a half years away. So I fail to see how you can possibly justify the statement that the release of Windows 7 is screwing over Vista users...
I've had next to no issues with Windows Vista and since I'm not keen on dual-booting and Release Candidates I feel no need to switch to Win7 (not until SP1, that's for sure). Vista has treated me well
I'd imagine that they justfy high initial cost on the basis that it's not a 'single investment' on their part. The consumer (rightly so) expects support and further development of the product for no extra cost, the only place this money can be made by the developer (apple, microsoft, whoever) is in the initial purchase cost. Unless they make it a subscription based OS. I'm not saying that microsoft is charging reasonable prices (nor Apple for that matter), I thought vista licence costs were too high and so never purchased it.
I have however been impressed by the win7 RC and beta so likely will pick it up on release or early 2010 despite the cost. Guess that's what MS were hoping the majority of consumers would think!
And how many times have Apple brought out an £80 update in the last 10 years?.........
Smaller to swallow, dosen't mean you eat less crap overall.
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