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Waiting for BT to upgrade your local exchange with super-fast fibre? It could be happening soon.
They would be better off getting broadband to everyone first... my grandparents still aren't serviceable by a broadband enabled line
WALKDEN North West
Wahoo - get in.
We got fast ADSL quite early and now this :mrgreen:
not in my area yet :( would love the ultra-fast broadband!
So disappointing.. the exchange next to mine is getting it!! If only I lived in a slightly different part of town...
Ah well, I can only hope that the infrastructure required for this means there\'s a higher chance we\'ll get it sooner than later?
my copper line is so bad, and im so far from the exchange, that ADSL is less than 4meg and drops out every erm... 30-180seconds, i was forced to go with VM for BBQuote:
Originally Posted by TAKTAK
Wooh! As a 512 kbps bb user I'm happy to see the really fast stuff staying where it belongs: far away from me. :)
Get in! My town is on the list!! Finally, bet it won't be cheap though :(
I\'m quite disguisted by this really, my line currently won\'t go over around 150kbps. It\'s been excuse after excuse by BT, it was 2Mbps when we moved in but due to new housing and increased demand speeds have dropped. They\'re due to upgrade the line to allow everyone to get 2Mbps but not until 2012 now because their resources are "too stretched" to deal with the issue right now. To hear that they\'re laying down fiber to allow people speeds of "up to 100Mbps" is really quite infuriating...
Where i use to live is getting it :(
Is this FTTH or FTTC and i assume you have to go to BT to get it.
It\'ll be FTTC.Quote:
Originally Posted by handscombmp
FTTH is a distant wish, and they don\'t have the rest of the infrastructure to support the kind of speeds that would enable anyway.
It\'s FTTC + VDSL2 afaik?
Su
Thats true. If only it was FTTH [Looks into space dreaming]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mblaster
To be honest i think BT should be trying to make sure that all there bt wholesale is ADSL 2+ but if i had the fibre i'd be saying the oposite.
and i suppose that doing fibre is better in the long run than doing a half-arsed approach.
Cool - Greenwich is there.
Hope BT dont insist on having to have a phone contract with them as well on the side to participate.
Wtf "Swinton, Greater Manchester"
First off Swintons in Salford and arguably a small area (pro/con) seems theyve done it to combat VM's dominance there rather than offer a better service, also i agree with others they should get atleast 2Mb to everyone first!
damn, no brent!
If we are with other providers like Tiscali, plusnet, etc. , will we be getting free upgrades to 100Mbps as well?
Just got my twenty four megabizzles of Be* activated today. I guess I might be ready for an upgrade here in Bristol North by the end of 2010 :D
Are you getting the full 24mb with BE?Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
I'm with them too, 18mb is the highest I've had!
i wonder if sky will take advantage of this
i have their 16mbit (connected at 13.4, happy enough with that) and would love to go 100mbit
i'd never make the switch to BT though, i'd rather stick with sky and their absolutely gobsmacking performance than go with BT and their shoddyness
my neighbour, literally 2 doors away, has the BT 8mbit and its a joke. Downloading from the same places as me rarely gets more than 200kb/s while i get 1.42mb/s
Just as we sort our broadband out with Virgin. Will have to keep an eye out on prices.
Hope this doesnt take too many years to roll out, although im getting a really good 630kb/s down on BT ADSL, i really do miss having cable broadband through virgin media.
Free? :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by OilSheikh
To offer this speed, providers will need to buy into the new BT Wholsale model for these high speed services. I don't know when this will happen or how much it will cost. But it will be significantly more than the bargain basement price offered at the moment.
I sync at 1,412 / 23,929. Haven't had a chance to do a decent test on it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by tickedon
Hopefully with VDSL, we can all sync a bit closer to that magic "up to" speed! I still think it's a bit of a joke when ISP's get away with advertising a connection as 8MB, when the average line speed on Max is like 3.4MB or something?
(I may have pulled that figure out of my bumhole :p but you get the point!)
Su
So would you rather they had 50* different packages at slightly different speeds? ranging from 512kbit to 8mbitQuote:
Originally Posted by Sumanji
Or have it like it used to be when you only got 512kibt, 1mbit and 2mbit. And even if your line was able to support a slightly higher bandwidth connection you coulnd't have it.
And I remember when it cost me in excess of £25/month for 512kbit and couldn't be happier (well I could have been happier if they didn't make me use the "stingray" or "frog" modem)
*(I may have pulled that figure out of my bumhole :p but you get the point!)
Oh my word, my exchange is on the list. :o
This has got me worried.Quote:
VDSL2 deteriorates quickly from a theoretical maximum of 250 Mbit/s at 'source' to 100 Mbit/s at 0.5 km (1640 ft) and 50 Mbit/s at 1 km (3280 ft), but degrades at a much slower rate from there, and still outperforms VDSL. Starting from 1.6 km (1 mile) its performance is equal to ADSL2+.
I assume that this is from the cabinet since when it starts to degrade the quality.
And how close will the cabinets be. Will they be like those grey boxes on the ground you get at the moment or will BT be cheap and try and do small villages with just one.
No - I'd rather they were forced to advertise with their average (independently verified) line speed :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Funkstar
Yup, that's from the cab dude, don't fret!Quote:
Originally Posted by handscombmp
And yes, I imagine they will cheap out on villages - and rightly so :p
Su
Everyone moaning about how their exchange is currently slow should actually be embracing this new technology! ADSL2+ is quite problematical, after three vallys water dug up the road I live on, my speed has halfed. Be can't do much about it either. This technology is a proper solution, rather than something to treat the symptoms.
handscobmp, the cab i'm on is about 20 meters away from my home, even my parents how live in cornwall, live only 80 meters away from their cab.
One per village? What kind of luxury cloud cuckoo land are you living in? :p My exchange two villages from here, a distance of over two miles as the bird flies or nearly 4 by road :O_o1:Quote:
Originally Posted by handscombmp
No wonder my connection sucks, ADSL over those distances :confused:
I'm pretty certain they were referring to the small cabinets on the streets, not the exchanges....?Quote:
Originally Posted by McPhee
Wow that sucks... surely theres some clause somewhere about having proper access to the internet that if degraded by other factors, you should be able to demand something?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAnimus
Back on topic, doesn't all of this only really have complete continuity if you get the fibre optic setup on the whole connection, including from your house to the (green) box down your road?
I'm pleased to see Basingstoke on the list, identified as a broadband black hole already. I struggle to get 1.5Mb with no difference between 8 and 24Mb services. 62db attenuation is a killer and given the urban populace of the area, it will be of great interest to see what difference it can make.
I'm not really that bothered about uber fast speeds, I want stability and reliability first, the rest can come later.
The cost increase from "Fibre To The Cabinet" (FTTC) to "Fibre To The Home" (FTTH) is something like an order of magnitude. Sure there are benefits to it, but lets get FTTC going first. Then we can start worrying about FTTH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oobie-
Running SDSL and VDSL services from the home to the cabinet over copper will allow for much better services than is possible currently in the vast majority of cases, with significantly less cost involved.
If you are very close to the box, then its possible to get far faster speeds out of the copper in theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oobie-
even the ropiest bit of copper can do 100mbits for 100 meters.