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    Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla" Xbox

    Microsoft's Xbox 360 console is due a refresh, but will we see a redesign for the upcoming Valhalla revision?
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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    i cant see why they would, they have done well in the console wars a huge improvement over the first xbox sales.


    would like built in wifi in they were gonna change it though.


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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Same here, the console looks fine as it is if you ask me and obviously if there is going to be newer die shrinks bring them on !
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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    I remember something MS were on about. NATAL. And it being included in the next revision?

    Or maybe I am confusing this with something else.

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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    and it'll squeeze both the CPU and GPU onto the same piece of silicon
    That'd be some feat.

    I thought MS had already responded - they increased the price of their console

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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Am i right in thinking that the CPU & GPU on the same piece of silicon would perform better than seperately ? Obviously if they do i can't really see devs/MS making use of it, just curious.
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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    MS having been testing their so called 'slim 360' but have yet to find a solution to RROD, that's why Sony's beaten them to the punch! MS had it with the Xbox 1 then lost it all with the 360 - [fact: 360's the most defective console in gaming history], tragic story that!...

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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Furthermore, the company has never previously introduced a smaller version of an existing console, and we've no reason to believe it'll start now.
    That's because MS rushed the original Xbox. In their greediness they forgot to sign all technology for the console to themselves, so Nvidia literally owned the Xbox. With MS forcing Nvidia to lower their sale price, there was no way they would let MS make any changes. This is also the reason for no hardware backward compatibility, MS would have had to ask Nvidia, and pay them as well. So the reason for all the RROD's is that they used ATI instead

    As for a slim 360. Hell yes. The current model is one big piece of crap, noisy, too damn hot, and bloody unreliable. MS need a major slap for allowing this to happen, the fact that they buried their head in the sand and said what problems before saying that "some consoles are failing" will go down in history as one of the biggest *&^% ups in gaming.

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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    Am i right in thinking that the CPU & GPU on the same piece of silicon would perform better than seperately ?
    Not really. You'll save a tiny bit of latency in the communications between the two, but the latency to the RAM is going to be the same. It would be a cost saving thing, if they could engineer it, but they'd be beating both AMD and Intel to the achievement.

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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Quote Originally Posted by 2PeteShakur View Post
    MS having been testing their so called 'slim 360' but have yet to find a solution to RROD, that's why Sony's beaten them to the punch! MS had it with the Xbox 1 then lost it all with the 360 - [fact: 360's the most defective console in gaming history], tragic story that!...
    Cheers for that, i can only assume your on the inside when it comes to Xbox 360. PS WE LOVE YOU STEVIE BALLMER /sarc
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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Quote Originally Posted by 2PeteShakur View Post
    MS having been testing their so called 'slim 360' but have yet to find a solution to RROD, that's why Sony's beaten them to the punch! MS had it with the Xbox 1 then lost it all with the 360 - [fact: 360's the most defective console in gaming history], tragic story that!...
    It must hurt to know that Sony's only competition was a re-spun gamecube and the most defective console in gaming history, yet they still came last.

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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Just wanted to say I don't think Valhalla is a response to the PS3 slim since I've known about it for ages. Check the date on this post: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=901401 I don't think Sony had announced a slim PS3 then.

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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Yeah the board revision names have been on the webs for ages, if there is to be a new SKU it probably will be with Natal but i doubt it will be integrated into the 360 it self.
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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    Cheers for that, i can only assume your on the inside when it comes to Xbox 360. PS WE LOVE YOU STEVIE BALLMER /sarc
    It's just some loser who doesn't know jack.

    It's a known fact Valhalla has been on the roadmap for a LONG time (I read on it when I bought my Falcon then my Jasper 360, 18 months to the start of this year)

    They don't need a slim 360, especially not when the slim ps3 is only a few mm thinner than the 360, a better choice would be incorporating hardware (such as planned with the Natal release apparently) and wifi etc than to focus on a thinner one.

    Don't forget Sony have removed all BC and ability to install Linux on the machines now also
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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    Yeah to make it thinner they'd have to do a side-mountable HDD or something.

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    Re: Opinions - Will Microsoft respond to Sony's slim PlayStation 3 with a "Valhalla"

    I would of thought the ability to install Linux would be software related rather than hardware, hmmmmm.
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
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