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    News - What we're downloading from P2P: 54m for Heroes

    The top-10 lists for TV programs and films. Makes for interesting reading.
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    Re: News - What we're downloading from P2P: 54m for Heroes

    who hasn't torrented an episode of Heroes or Lost that they missed on TV?

    As said in another thread, give us Hulu!

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    Re: News - What we're downloading from P2P: 54m for Heroes

    Maybe TV companies should start trying to show the big named shows as close as they can around the world.... Why wait 6months for a show you really want to watch (with adverts and often on at a silly time) when you can just download it now and enjoy it at your leisure NOW.

    Or why not put it up for streaming on a website and charge a small fee per episode. Bolting the stable door once the horse has bolted is pointless.... Get on the horse and ride it!
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    Re: News - What we're downloading from P2P: 54m for Heroes

    Are people surprised? i bet most hexus users download a tv show of some sort.

    not a new thing and as said before, why cant they broadcast episodes around the world instead of waiting so long for them to come out? plus the adverts pisses people off big time as well.

    personaly i dont see a big issue in downloading tv shows because their free to watch and view on bbc or sometimes even sky one. Its not like movies where you have to pay to watch it in cinema's or pay for a blu ray or dvd when it gets released. yes you can always wait a year after to watch it for free legitamtly on sky but still not the same has tv shows.

    The wire for example has just started being shown on bbc. pathetic. Dexter season 3 started showing a few months ago dispite the series ending late last year over in america?

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    Re: News - What we're downloading from P2P: 54m for Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    personaly i dont see a big issue in downloading tv shows because their free to watch and view on bbc or sometimes even sky one.
    Ahhh.... but if you watch it on tv, in theory at least, you are contributing to the viewing figures and, again in theory, increasing the ad revenue.

    BBC is different obviously, and so I guess it's arguable that if you're just downloading an episode you missed last week, there really is no harm. At least no harm that I can reasonably think of. No doubt you would still be breaking IP law, but I really struggle to see how they are affected (assuming you actually pay the licence fee ) The only argument I can see is that you should go out and but it on DVD to catch the episode you missed, but are the DVDs released concurrently? (I don't know)

    As for Sky One and other premium, subscription channels - that's where the industry will struggle to beat piracy. For non-premium stuff, e.g. channel 4, itv etc... they could just set up websites that forces you to watch adverts. I've not used Hulu but I assume that's what it does. I think being legit and ease of use would deter a lot of the casual pirates. (& yes no doubt people would crack it so you could skip the adverts, but assuming they are sensible and don't make the adverts excessive, how many people would go to that effort??)

    For the subscription/premium channel stuff though the industry will presumably still want to charge, and I guess they would argue ad revenue wouldn't be enough. For a lot of people though, the simple position is that torrents are free... Maybe the industry needs to take a step back and work out whether a reduced per viewer revenue from ads rather than subscription/fee is better than no revenue at all from the millions of people downloading via torrents.

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    Re: News - What we're downloading from P2P: 54m for Heroes

    You still need to pay for a TV license and Sky/VM so its hardly like you have it 'free' in the first place so this vibe of entitlement is actually quite pathetic. There will be licensing reasons why the shows arent here originally or at all in some cases - not just because they don't want them here.

    Also i take it you've download the Pixar film Up as well then? You know seen as it was released in May(?) in the US but its not out here yet til Q4 O.o
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    Re: News - What we're downloading from P2P: 54m for Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthran View Post
    who hasn't torrented an episode of Heroes or Lost that they missed on TV?
    I can safely say I have never used bit torrent, or ever downloaded any episode of Lost.

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    Re: News - What we're downloading from P2P: 54m for Heroes

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    I can safely say I have never used bit torrent, or ever downloaded any episode of Lost.
    fair enough.

    My main gripe is simple:

    As somebody who pays for a TV licence and has a premium sky package, Should i miss an episode or 2 of lost and decide to download them, I'm illegal, yet if i pay extra for sky+ or use a vcr and record them i am legal. Worse than that, if i recorded an episode on a vcr and then lent the video to a friend who DIDN'T have sky etc, i would STILL be legal under the old rulings of fair use back from the 80's. Yet downloading is completely different legally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthran View Post
    fair enough.
    Yet downloading is completely different legally
    Dont forget your uploading at the same time.
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    Re: News - What we're downloading from P2P: 54m for Heroes

    British TV shows suck big time and the British channels dont show many good US TV shows either.

    No wonder we resort to file-sharing.

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    The most worrying thing to take from this is that 54 million people downlaoded Heroes 0.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    The most worrying thing to take from this is that 54 million people downlaoded Heroes 0.o
    Crikey, are there that many impressionable, unimaginative idiots out there?
    I don't care, someone has to say it. Most of these shows are pretty dreadful...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    The most worrying thing to take from this is that 54 million people downlaoded Heroes 0.o
    no, there was 54million heroes torrents.

    3 series's at 14+ episodes each, plus compilations. thats 35 torrents total. :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    You still need to pay for a TV license and Sky/VM so its hardly like you have it 'free' in the first place so this vibe of entitlement is actually quite pathetic. There will be licensing reasons why the shows arent here originally or at all in some cases - not just because they don't want them here.

    Also i take it you've download the Pixar film Up as well then? You know seen as it was released in May(?) in the US but its not out here yet til Q4 O.o
    yea but you still need to pay to have an internet connection to download whatever and that is infact more expensive then a tv licence and sometimes more than a sky/VM package

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    yea but you still need to pay to have an internet connection to download whatever and that is infact more expensive then a tv licence and sometimes more than a sky/VM package
    you are overpaying on your broadband then as my tv license is now just over £10 a month and my broadband just under.


    I dont understand how people feel they are entitled to download.


    The really worrying thing is that 54 million people downloaded a program that was on many channels, and wasn't limited to subscription channels like lost. Does that mean 54 million people are incapable of using a video recorder.


    Am also proud to say that i do not download any shows nor have in the past,


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