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    News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Following the demise of IBM's PowerXCell-8i processor for the PS3, rumours suggest that its successor has already been chosen.
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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Mistake?
    "FGNOnline claims a world exclusive in discovering that the PS3 will apparently utilise IMGTEC's PowerVR Series 6 chipset, due to be released in 2012. "
    at the bottom nearly.

    Didnt notice that the ps3 had such good cpu power, obviously this is let down by the performance of the gpu which is no where near to the scale of the cpu which seems a bit stupid :L.
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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Are these IBM processors better than Intel's ones?

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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Are these IBM processors better than Intel's ones?
    They have a better FLOPS/W ratio, and they're easier to write compilers for.

    r.e. the article, hopefully this will make the PS4 economically feasible.
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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks12 View Post
    Didnt notice that the ps3 had such good cpu power, obviously this is let down by the performance of the gpu which is no where near to the scale of the cpu which seems a bit stupid :L.
    And nobody was using the SPUs anyway, it's too complex and costly to run code on them in an optimal manner.
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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    I thought that the PS3 ran (more or less) on a 7800GTX, although I could be wrong.

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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    I thought that the PS3 ran (more or less) on a 7800GTX, although I could be wrong.
    Naw, that's just the RSX GPU. The CPU itself is a PowerPC core with a bunch of MIPS chips wrapped around it.
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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Naw, that's just the RSX GPU. The CPU itself is a PowerPC core with a bunch of MIPS chips wrapped around it.
    Yeah sorry, I meant graphics-wise it ran on a 7800 chip. Does the Cell get involved in the graphics processing at all then? I seem to remember that each of the 7 cores was assigned to a different task.

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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Yeah sorry, I meant graphics-wise it ran on a 7800 chip. Does the Cell get involved in the graphics processing at all then? I seem to remember that each of the 7 cores was assigned to a different task.
    From what I understand, the GPU does all the graphics processing, you'd do stuff like physics and AI on the SPUs while the PPC core does SPU thread monitoring, basic gameplay work, and light idle loops.

    It just annoys me that the PS3 doesn't upscale properly.
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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    It just annoys me that the PS3 doesn't upscale properly.
    In what way?

    Sorry, I own a PS3 but I know absolutely sod all about it. Although, that probably puts me in line with 99% of console owners.

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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    It just annoys me that the PS3 doesn't upscale properly.

    hmm weird..

    you have enabled upscaling in the menu settings? works fine on my 60gb release model.

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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barrichello View Post
    hmm weird..

    you have enabled upscaling in the menu settings? works fine on my 60gb release model.
    Yes. If your TV doesn't have a decent upscaler to compensate, you're shafted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    From what I understand, the GPU does all the graphics processing, you'd do stuff like physics and AI on the SPUs while the PPC core does SPU thread monitoring, basic gameplay work, and light idle loops.

    It just annoys me that the PS3 doesn't upscale properly.
    The cores can be used as graphical processors as the GPU itself isn't 'up to it' so to speak, i believe this is how they got Uncharted 2 to look so good. And by upscaling i think i know what you mean - for those that don't there isn't actually a scaling chip like the ANA/HANA one in the 360 (IIRC) so if your playing on a 1080p set your f#cked the majority of the time as the 720p image gets stretched, and suggestively looks kack, the post-processing in KZ2 covers up quite good though tbh.
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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    The cores still wont do any hardware rendering. You might do software tessellation (as part of a physics subsystem) in a few SPUs, but in practice almost nobody will bother doing that.
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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Oh right, I've only got a 720p TV so I've never noticed. It's kinda nice to know though, I had a feeling that I was missing out on some of the better PS3 graphics as a result of the screen res.

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    Re: News - PS4 to be powered by IBM Power7?

    Man, this is gonna screw backwards compatibility even further right? I guess total software emulation for PS2 titles would be possible, but what about PS3 titles?

    Also strange that they would go with PowerVR when they could continue their relationship with nVidia (seems they were pimping PhysX quite a lot for the PS3).

    What happened to the rumours of Larrabee on PS4 (and a large amount of Intel $$ heading to Sony!!).

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