Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at CES

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    31,709
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2,073 times in 719 posts

    News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at CES

    Never saw this coming, did we?
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    27
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    • Code Geass's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P5Q Premium
      • CPU:
      • Intel Q6600 3.60GHz
      • Memory:
      • 4GB Crucial BallistiX [4-4-4-12]
      • Storage:
      • Western Digital 640GB Caviar Blue
      • Graphics card(s):
      • H.I.S Radeon HD4870
      • PSU:
      • Cooler Master iGreen 600w
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master Elite 334
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Professional x64

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Nice! Looking forward to this

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    780
    Thanks
    30
    Thanked
    49 times in 38 posts

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Why would anybody deliberately buy something with intel graphics?

  4. #4
    Headless Chicken Terbinator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    7,661
    Thanks
    1,201
    Thanked
    727 times in 595 posts
    • Terbinator's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock H61M
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon 1230-V3
      • Memory:
      • Geil Evo Corsa 2133/8GB
      • Storage:
      • M4 128GB, 2TB WD Red
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX Titan
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX760i
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster 130
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8.1 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell Ultrasharp U2711H
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media 60Mb.

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo75 View Post
    Why would anybody deliberately buy something with intel graphics?
    The on chip GFX are better than that offered in the GM45 platform - no doubt the biggest attraction around this is its new fabrication technology allowing relatively low energy consumption and high performance - could possibly become the best CPU on the lower side of £100.
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
    CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
    TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    587
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked
    7 times in 7 posts

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    it represents the 'tick' in the company's 'tick-tock' roadmap
    I know the Intel roadmap development model refers to it like this, but I think it sounds backwards. The 'tick' should be the new microarchitecture design, and the 'tock' should be the same/similar architecture transitioned to a reduced process size.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo75 View Post
    Why would anybody deliberately buy something with intel graphics?
    Well (1) it's better than integrated motherboard graphics, and (2) where's AMD Fusion?

  6. #6
    Ninja Noxvayl's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    In the shadows
    Posts
    2,451
    Thanks
    748
    Thanked
    215 times in 173 posts
    • Noxvayl's system
      • Motherboard:
      • GigabyteZ87X-UD4H-CF
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7 4770K
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Corsair Vengaence LPX + 8GB Kingston HyperX Beast
      • Storage:
      • 120GB Snadisk + 256GB Crucial SSDs
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 4GB Sapphire R9 380
      • PSU:
      • ENermax Platimax 750W
      • Case:
      • Fractal Design Define S
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • ATMT + Dell 1024x1280
      • Internet:
      • Sky Fibre

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Quote Originally Posted by latrosicarius View Post
    I know the Intel roadmap development model refers to it like this, but I think it sounds backwards. The 'tick' should be the new microarchitecture design, and the 'tock' should be the same/similar architecture transitioned to a reduced process size.
    In my opinion it is fine the way it is. I relate "Tock" to a new architecture because of the deeper more vibrant sound it commands when you say it. Makes sense that way to me anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by latrosicarius View Post
    Well (1) it's better than integrated motherboard graphics, and (2) where's AMD Fusion?
    Only benefit on the die GPU will bring for CPU's is in the very low end of the market for price and low power. AMD could get some sort of gaming and video processing benefit since they'll use proper GPU architecture but that is still way off and currently not promising that much tbh.

    I really hope the Cell processor gets a consumer showing for gamers sooner rather than later since it is far better than any AMD or Intel CPU.

  7. #7
    Headless Chicken Terbinator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    7,661
    Thanks
    1,201
    Thanked
    727 times in 595 posts
    • Terbinator's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock H61M
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon 1230-V3
      • Memory:
      • Geil Evo Corsa 2133/8GB
      • Storage:
      • M4 128GB, 2TB WD Red
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX Titan
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX760i
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster 130
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8.1 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell Ultrasharp U2711H
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media 60Mb.

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Quote Originally Posted by ExHail View Post
    I really hope the Cell processor gets a consumer showing for gamers sooner rather than later since it is far better than any AMD or Intel CPU.
    Really ?
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
    CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
    TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

  8. #8
    Ninja Noxvayl's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    In the shadows
    Posts
    2,451
    Thanks
    748
    Thanked
    215 times in 173 posts
    • Noxvayl's system
      • Motherboard:
      • GigabyteZ87X-UD4H-CF
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7 4770K
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Corsair Vengaence LPX + 8GB Kingston HyperX Beast
      • Storage:
      • 120GB Snadisk + 256GB Crucial SSDs
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 4GB Sapphire R9 380
      • PSU:
      • ENermax Platimax 750W
      • Case:
      • Fractal Design Define S
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • ATMT + Dell 1024x1280
      • Internet:
      • Sky Fibre

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    Really ?
    Very much so>
    http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cell/Cell0_v2.html

    http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1727

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_%28microprocessor%29

    The first sold units are found in the PS3 which basically just demonstrates its potential and brings a wealth of developers onto a new piece of hardware which is reportedly very different and thus more difficult to code for. IBM has plans on producing super computers with the processor, once that takes off it won't be long before we get Cell processors in the channel.

    It is a much better system than what we currently have as it is universal and can link up with other devices to form a "super computer" from everyday equipment; eg TV, PS3, Computer and PDA using a Cell processor can connect wirelessly and assist each other with tasks. Of course the link between devices limits the sort of data throughput you can expect but it is a massive technological leap forward from the proprietary x86 CPU's both in flexibility and performance.

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Glasgow, Scotland
    Posts
    556
    Thanks
    35
    Thanked
    24 times in 23 posts
    • tickedon's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P6T Deluxe (V1)
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core i7 920
      • Memory:
      • 6GB OCZ DDR3 (3x2GB)
      • Storage:
      • 1x 750 Samsung F1, 1x 250gb, 1x 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • AMD ATI Radeon 6850 2GB
      • PSU:
      • 650w Corsair TX650
      • Case:
      • Antec P180
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8 Pro (64bit)
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" BenQ G2222HDL + 20" Samsung 205bw
      • Internet:
      • 24mb Be Unlimited ADSL2

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Quote Originally Posted by ExHail View Post
    IBM has plans on producing super computers with the processor, once that takes off it won't be long before we get Cell processors in the channel.
    I'm not so sure on this. There has been some confusion lately on how committed IBM are to future Cell development (e.g. http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16530/38/). There are arguments if its just the next processor or if it's the whole Cell series. I think we'll need to wait and see whether Cell has any sort of great future ahead of it.

  10. Received thanks from:

    Terbinator (18-12-2009)

  11. #10
    HEXUS webmaster Steve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    14,282
    Thanks
    293
    Thanked
    840 times in 475 posts

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Cell has about as much chance of mainstream consumer success as ARM cores do.
    PHP Code:
    $s = new signature();
    $s->sarcasm()->intellect()->font('Courier New')->display(); 

  12. Received thanks from:

    Terbinator (18-12-2009)

  13. #11
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    30,948
    Thanks
    1,845
    Thanked
    3,357 times in 2,698 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra
      • CPU:
      • Intel i9 9900k
      • Memory:
      • 32GB DDR4 3200 CL16
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung 970Evo+ NVMe
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell S2721DGF
      • Internet:
      • rubbish

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Very much not. The SPUs in cell really can't do very much compared to PC architecture chips. It can do a few things pretty fast, but it's horribly narrow.

    They tried to use it for graphics for example, but found it so bad they had to shoehorn in an RSX chip at the last minute.

    If you're going to have a fast FP chip then you're better off using Tesla.

  14. Received thanks from:

    Terbinator (18-12-2009)

  15. #12
    Gentoo Ricer
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Galway
    Posts
    11,048
    Thanks
    1,016
    Thanked
    944 times in 704 posts
    • aidanjt's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Strix Z370-G
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7-8700K
      • Memory:
      • 2x8GB Corsiar LPX 3000C15
      • Storage:
      • 500GB Samsung 960 EVO
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX 2.0
      • PSU:
      • EVGA G3 750W
      • Case:
      • Fractal Design Define C Mini
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus MG279Q
      • Internet:
      • 240mbps Virgin Cable

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Cell has about as much chance of mainstream consumer success as ARM cores do.
    Probably less of a chance, at this point. :/

    At least developers are willing to write toolchains and hand-optimised-asm for ARM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

  16. Received thanks from:

    Terbinator (18-12-2009)

  17. #13
    Anthropomorphic Personification shaithis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Last Aerie
    Posts
    10,857
    Thanks
    645
    Thanked
    872 times in 736 posts
    • shaithis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77 WS
      • CPU:
      • i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32GB HyperX 1866
      • Storage:
      • Lots!
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850
      • Case:
      • Corsair 600T (White)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell 3007
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb Fibre

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Isn't there a serious issue with the cell CPU though? The architecture is so different the only way current apps would run on it would be with a custom version of windows with an emulator running......i.e. poor performance until apps are re-written and possibly even being compiled into dual binaries much like apple did when they switched from PPC to x86.
    Main PC: Asus Rampage IV Extreme / 3960X@4.5GHz / Antec H1200 Pro / 32GB DDR3-1866 Quad Channel / Sapphire Fury X / Areca 1680 / 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Gold 2 / Corsair 600T / 2x Dell 3007 / 4 x 250GB SSD + 2 x 80GB SSD / 4 x 1TB HDD (RAID 10) / Windows 10 Pro, Yosemite & Ubuntu
    HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
    HTPC2: Asus AM1I-A / 5150 / 4GB / Corsair Force 3 240GB / Silverstone SST-ML05B + ST30SF / Samsung UE60H6200 TV / Windows 10 Pro
    Spare/Loaner: Gigabyte EX58-UD5 / i950 / 12GB / HD7870 / Corsair 300R / Silverpower 700W modular
    NAS 1: HP N40L / 12GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Arrays || NAS 2: Dell PowerEdge T110 II / 24GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Hybrid arrays || Network:Buffalo WZR-1166DHP w/DD-WRT + HP ProCurve 1800-24G
    Laptop: Dell Precision 5510 Printer: HP CP1515n || Phone: Huawei P30 || Other: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Pro 10.1 CM14 / Playstation 4 + G29 + 2TB Hybrid drive

  18. Received thanks from:

    Terbinator (18-12-2009)

  19. #14
    Gentoo Ricer
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Galway
    Posts
    11,048
    Thanks
    1,016
    Thanked
    944 times in 704 posts
    • aidanjt's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Strix Z370-G
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7-8700K
      • Memory:
      • 2x8GB Corsiar LPX 3000C15
      • Storage:
      • 500GB Samsung 960 EVO
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX 2.0
      • PSU:
      • EVGA G3 750W
      • Case:
      • Fractal Design Define C Mini
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus MG279Q
      • Internet:
      • 240mbps Virgin Cable

    Re: News - Intel officially announces 32nm Westmere CPU architecture - to be shown at

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Isn't there a serious issue with the cell CPU though? The architecture is so different the only way current apps would run on it would be with a custom version of windows with an emulator running......i.e. poor performance until apps are re-written and possibly even being compiled into dual binaries much like apple did when they switched from PPC to x86.
    Yes, it's a nightmare to develop for. If you think writing threaded/multicore code is tough on the poor ole 'x86' programmers, think how bad it is having to keep track of 8 discrete cores all of which are a completely different architecture from the primary execution core.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

  20. Received thanks from:

    Terbinator (18-12-2009)

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 15-09-2008, 03:30 PM
  2. Replies: 3
    Last Post: 09-09-2008, 04:04 PM
  3. Replies: 9
    Last Post: 27-08-2008, 01:02 AM
  4. Scan & Intel CPU Warranty Issues
    By Supershanks in forum SCAN.care@HEXUS
    Replies: 82
    Last Post: 05-02-2008, 12:15 PM
  5. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 18-09-2007, 05:22 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •