News - New world record for 3DMark Vantage single card set

[HEXUS]

Gigabyte is boasting that its GA-P55-UD5 board has helped facilitate a smashing win for overclocker HiCookie in the 3DMark Vantage single GPU category.

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[12GaugeShotty]

And? 3DMark isn't a game. You can't play it. Rather pointless "record" IMO.

[kalniel]

And? 3DMark isn't a game. You can't play it. Rather pointless "record" IMO.

It's a benchmark. There's a reason it's not playable.

This is impressive, especially given the lack of PhysX score cheating (I assume - haven't read it to see if he's got hacked drivers enabling a spare card).

[borandi]

And? 3DMark isn't a game. You can't play it. Rather pointless "record" IMO.

Overclocking is a sport - pushing hardware to the limit and then some takes dedication and skill.

There's more to PCs and graphics cards than gaming. Any moron with half a brain could work that out.

Overclockers do it for the engineering, the sponsorship, the competition, the understanding of the platform inside and out. Not to play 'games', whatever they are. Now I'm going to go play the 'Borderlands' simulation on my overclocked PC. OMG I HOPEZ IT GETZ 40 FPS LULZ

[mercyground]

And? 3DMark isn't a game. You can't play it. Rather pointless "record" IMO.

Bitter NVidia troll spotted.

Got some Fermi benchmarks yet? No? Didnt think so.

Come back in March when you have a card to run against these results.

[watforddude]

Bitter NVidia troll spotted.

Got some Fermi benchmarks yet? No? Didnt think so.

Come back in March when you have a card to run against these results.

Don't know how that works when his graphics are ATI?

[12GaugeShotty]

It's a benchmark. There's a reason it's not playable.

This is impressive, especially given the lack of PhysX score cheating (I assume - haven't read it to see if he's got hacked drivers enabling a spare card).

It's a benchmark of what? A 3D engine not used in a single 3D game on the market?

Overclocking is a sport - pushing hardware to the limit and then some takes dedication and skill.

Baseball is a sport. Football is a sport. Hockey is a sport. Racing cars is a sport. Playing cards is a sport.

Overclocking is not a sport. Using LN2 to cool PC hardware, which destroys it, is a waste of money and useful hardware. If you aren't going to use PC hardware, especially gaming hardware, then take that money that you are throwing away and give it to some needy, starving children in Africa.

Mind you that I have overclocked every CPU I ever owned, but it was because I didn't want to waste my money on higher clocked CPUs when I could take a cheaper CPU and get the same performance if not better. That is the point of overclocking.

Bitter NVidia troll spotted.

Got some Fermi benchmarks yet? No? Didnt think so.

Come back in March when you have a card to run against these results.

Is there something wrong with you? Do you not see my specs? Do you see an nVIDIA product there? I haven't owned anything from nVIDIA since 2002 when I switched to a Radeon 9700 Pro and never looked back at green.

[CrazyMonkey]

It's a benchmark of what? A 3D engine not used in a single 3D game on the market?

It's a benchmark of performance, seeing as the benchmark stays coherent across all hardware the results are a good measurement of power and can be a useful aid in relation to say gaming performance. Granted it's not a benchmark of a specific game. Either way it's an achievement.

[kalniel]

It's a benchmark of what? A 3D engine not used in a single 3D game on the market?

Precisely - if they took the engine used in a particular game then it wouldn't be fair or representative of other games on the market that used different engines - if you want to benchmark a game then you benchmark a game. On the other hand if you want to model 3d performance in a more objective manner then you implement your own benchmark using the standard directX APIs with tests deliberately focusing on different aspects of graphics hardware performance in a repeatable and testable environment.

So short answer - it's a benchmark of graphics card performance not tied to a single game out there.

Overclocking is not a sport. Using LN2 to cool PC hardware, which destroys it, is a waste of money and useful hardware.

It's a competative hobby/technical field. There are many hobbies and sports which consume parts - I presume you're also against all motorsport etc?

[PeterStoba]

I don't belive this is happening. As Borandi said, it is a sport, a competitive one, people enjoy it and that's what matters. Without these people hardware wouldn't be where it was right now, and you certainly wouldn't be sitting around pressing buttons in your BIOS getting a free speed boost.

And? 3DMark isn't a game. You can't play it. Rather pointless "record" IMO.

So are most things in life, it's just what some people enjoy.

It's a benchmark of what? A 3D engine not used in a single 3D game on the market?

Shattered Horizon uses a modified version of the Vantage engine...

Baseball is a sport. Football is a sport. Hockey is a sport. Racing cars is a sport. Playing cards is a sport.

Overclocking is not a sport.

Overclocking isn't a sport? But Playing cards is? If you count playing cards as a sport, then so is overclocking, they both meet the criteria...

Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determinant of the outcome (winning or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports (a common name for some card games and board games with little to no element of chance) and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors.

Using LN2 to cool PC hardware, which destroys it, is a waste of money and useful hardware. If you aren't going to use PC hardware, especially gaming hardware, then take that money that you are throwing away and give it to some needy, starving children in Africa.

Mind you that I have overclocked every CPU I ever owned, but it was because I didn't want to waste my money on higher clocked CPUs when I could take a cheaper CPU and get the same performance if not better. That is the point of overclocking.

Using LN2 does not ruin the hardware, at all, if done incorrectly, maybe, but most of these CPUs that have been used under LN2 last for years afterwards...

You say if you're not using it, then give the money away? As Borandi said, these people do it to find the boundaries of current hardware and feedback to manufacturers, without them your current hardware wouldn't be where it is today, and it wouldn't advance any where near as quick.

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Just a shame this isn't on hwbot, due to the driver he used. So, a bit of a pointless article. Shows just how competitive the scene is though when Smoke is now in 5th (from 2nd) and BenchBrothers.de are in 11th (from 3rd)!

[Terbinator]

Don't they use the benchmarking engine in that game Shattered Horizon ?

[12GaugeShotty]

It's a benchmark of performance, seeing as the benchmark stays coherent across all hardware the results are a good measurement of power and can be a useful aid in relation to say gaming performance. Granted it's not a benchmark of a specific game. Either way it's an achievement.

How can it be performance if no game uses that 3D engine?

Precisely - if they took the engine used in a particular game then it wouldn't be fair or representative of other games on the market that used different engines - if you want to benchmark a game then you benchmark a game. On the other hand if you want to model 3d performance in a more objective manner then you implement your own benchmark using the standard directX APIs with tests deliberately focusing on different aspects of graphics hardware performance in a repeatable and testable environment.

So short answer - it's a benchmark of graphics card performance not tied to a single game out there.

It's a competative hobby/technical field. There are many hobbies and sports which consume parts - I presume you're also against all motorsport etc?

So it's actually a benchmark of theoretical performance based upon something that doesn't exist?

Don't tell me that you are comparing motorsport to overclocking? One requires a hell of a lot of physical and mental skill and the other is nothing more than plugging things in and frying pricey hardware.

[Terbinator]

How can it be performance if no game uses that 3D engine?



So it's actually a benchmark of theoretical performance based upon something that doesn't exist?

Don't tell me that you are comparing motorsport to overclocking? One requires a hell of a lot of physical and mental skill and the other is nothing more than plugging things in and frying pricey hardware.

Don't you buy the majority of your components in the theory that there faster than something else ?

[12GaugeShotty]

Don't you buy the majority of your components in the theory that there [sic] faster than something else ?

No, what would make you think that? The only thing that forces me to upgrade my PC hardware are actual games. I got a Radeon HD 5850 because the Radeon HD 4830 that I had wasn't cutting it for Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising - to run with max detail settings and 4XAA/8XAF.

There was no theory involved and I didn't get it because it was faster than anything else. I got it because it was needed for a real world 3D engine. If I wanted faster than anything else I would have probably gotten the Radeon HD 5870 or waited for the Radeon HD 5970. No, I do not overclock my Radeon HD 5850 at all either.

Now that I think about it, PC gaming is actually a sport too. Still tring to find out where overclocking for the sake of a synthetic benchmark is a sport. It might be a competition but there is no physical skill nor mental skill involved to make it a sport.

Differing opinions here obviously so let's keep it clean if possible.

[Terbinator]

I was referring to the fact new products are usually advertised in such a way as: 'Up to 50% more performance than previous gen card/cpu/ram etc' - that's in theory, to an extent the 5850 benchmarks you may of viewed to see if it was worth the upgrade were all in theory unless you go to a tech website where they test on your specific hardware.

I think the closest thing you could compare OC'ing to is weightlifting, while one may be physically orientated the other is almost certainly a mental challenge - if it goes nipples up you have to start all over again and both have the aim of reaching the highest score.

Also did you check out shattered Horizon ? And just to round off, you don't stress test after overclocking then, you just dive straight onto Crysis

[12GaugeShotty]

Shattered Horizon uses a modified version of the Vantage engine...

Sorry, I wasn't aware of that game. Seems more like a tech demo than anything. Does anybody actually play it? I loathe Steam so I won't be trying it.