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    News - Project Canvas reportedly given the green light

    The FT reports that the BBC Trust has given the IPTV venture its provisional blessing.
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    Re: News - Project Canvas reportedly given the green light

    Are we talking DVB over IP type standard?
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    Re: News - Project Canvas reportedly given the green light

    So basically a box which connects to BBC iplayer, ITV player, five on demand etc all in one set way.

    If people want it then why not, can't see the point myself.

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    Re: News - Project Canvas reportedly given the green light

    From what I understand, Project Canvas is more about having the broadcasters make their programs available in the same way, rather than just lumping the different on demand players into one box.

    I believe this will also let ISPs manages the bandwidth these services will demand. Instead of each viewer pulling the video stream straight from the broadcaster, there should be the opportunity for the ISP to cache or proxy the data, removing the complaint that the likes of iPlayer is costing ISPs too much in data transfer costs.

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    Re: News - Project Canvas reportedly given the green light

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    From what I understand, Project Canvas is more about having the broadcasters make their programs available in the same way, rather than just lumping the different on demand players into one box.

    I believe this will also let ISPs manages the bandwidth these services will demand. Instead of each viewer pulling the video stream straight from the broadcaster, there should be the opportunity for the ISP to cache or proxy the data, removing the complaint that the likes of iPlayer is costing ISPs too much in data transfer costs.
    All sounds good and sensible. Should hopefully mean that plugins for Windows Media Centre, Mediaportal, XBMC et al can be standardised as well. I've found a nice iplayer plug in for WMC which feels like it's a proper BBC plug in, but it only deals with iplayer, not 4OD, five etc... Would be nice for software to work with all of them.

    & it would certainly be good if a few years down the line, £20-30 bog standard freeview boxes could connect to all the catchup services as well just by plugging in a cat 5 cable

    Going slightly off topic, the next on my personal hit list would be the various restrictions on internet services like Hulu and indeed iplayer. As a consumer, I see no decent reason why Hulu should be limited to the US - surely they can make money from advertising in the UK as well? (I presume the commercial reason is that they want to strike different deals in each country, & I'm sure Sky would object to their exclusive UK deal on a programme disappearing...)

    As for iplayer, can't it have adverts if it's a non-uk IP address and use the ad income to help reduce the license fee?

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    Re: News - Project Canvas reportedly given the green light

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryRW View Post
    Going slightly off topic, the next on my personal hit list would be the various restrictions on internet services like Hulu and indeed iplayer. As a consumer, I see no decent reason why Hulu should be limited to the US - surely they can make money from advertising in the UK as well? (I presume the commercial reason is that they want to strike different deals in each country, & I'm sure Sky would object to their exclusive UK deal on a programme disappearing...)
    it's not just about advertising, although that is a key point, but it's probably got more to do with licensing. Programs are usually sold under exclusive license to a broadcaster for that region. Sometimes there are restrictions on the medium of the broadcast (for instance BBC gets the rights for terrestrial viewers, but satellite viewers need to watch a Sky channel for the same thing. this is common for sports). I suspect there are provisions in the US contracts because of their local and national affiliates etc.

    Basically, it's all horribly complicated and built up over decades of cable, satellite and terrestrial development.

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryRW View Post
    As for iplayer, can't it have adverts if it's a non-uk IP address and use the ad income to help reduce the license fee?
    I'm sure it will in time, although not all shows will be available, again this is probably a licensing issue. The BBC News site does have adverts when viewed outside the UK. This will change in time, once the platform is a lot more mature. Also the increase in bandwidth the BBC would need to handle would be truly massive, the aditional cost of this may actually exceed the advertising revenue.

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