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    News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    The world's fastest network interface card promises to deliver the best possible online gaming experience.
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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    i fail to see how killer nic's can do that much to benefit pings, surely the most of the latency comes from the hops on route to the game server not your lan which any generic nic wil ping <1ms to the router

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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    £86 to make next to no difference at all. The wire that connects you to your router is probably the least important part of your 'online gaming experience'.

    Just buy a nice 23 quid intel pro 1000 and move on.

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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    You guys just don't get it, do you?

    Basically, you buy 30 of these and stick them to the outside of your case, your router, and any spare on your BT phone socket. Then bow your head and call up the power of all-mighty Odin who will sprinkle low pings onto your connections.

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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    I'd like to know how it's 400Mhz CPU is going to give lower latency than my core i7 920 @ 3.2ghz? It claims to help with games, most games are not heavily threaded, I have 4 real cores available, surely in most games I'm gonna have more CPU power available than it's on-board CPU?

    Basically, you buy 30 of these and stick them to the outside of your case, your router, and any spare on your BT phone socket. Then bow your head and call up the power of all-mighty Odin who will sprinkle low pings onto your connections.
    No, you buy 30 of them and stick them everywhere as bling. Although I think their previous cards had better bling value.

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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    The problem is there is something to be said for having a full hardware NIC rather than the low end onboard ones which rely too much on the CPU.

    But these I just can't see been of any use, even if your living in your mum's basement its off little bragging rights benefit compared to say if you got under a girls bra.
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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    Quote Originally Posted by abaxas View Post
    £86 to make next to no difference at all. The wire that connects you to your router is probably the least important part of your 'online gaming experience'.

    Just buy a nice 23 quid intel pro 1000 and move on.
    Actually the router itself will have a significantly greater impact, even a badly crimped cable wont cause significant frame corruption over the typical short distance between PC and router.

    The main point of contention BigFoot reckons is that their card and drivers wont block socket calls for any longer than necessary and they can do it because their TCP/IP implementation is on the card rather than using the generic Microsoft TCP/IP implementation which is CPU driven, so that should increase the frame rates, and using on card network apps allows the card to prioritise traffic based on application type. Hypothetically, they're correct. But personally (and like you say) I'd be happy enough with a proper Intel NIC to accelerate NIC I/O.

    Come to think of it, did BitFoot ever get around to providing Hexus with a sample to test? I remember they had a representative on the forums before, but no Hexus independent review ever came out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Come to think of it, did BitFoot ever get around to providing Hexus with a sample to test? I remember they had a representative on the forums before, but no Hexus independent review ever came out of it.
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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    So, I'm from Bigfoot. I wanted to clarify something from the article, because it raises a very good point. We are looking to show off some of the cards benefits by using an in-house built piece of software (because nothing existed before hand to test this). If I heard another company saying that too, I'd also be all kinds of skeptical. However, we're releasing the source code for that software to reviewers, so they can pick over it as much as they want to make sure we aren't doing any funny business with it (we aren't).

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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    So, you are writing software to prove how great this card is. Surely if it was so great, and made a measurable difference to the gaming experience, you wouldn't need to write your own test suite to prove it?

    Regardless of the integrity of the software, if the benefit is only visible in that, then the card is worthless and yet more snake oil in the gaming industry.

    I'll be reading the Hexus review of this with interest... and ignoring the results of the test suite. The real world performance is what would persuade me to buy it, not an artificial bench mark.

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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrakiv View Post
    So, I'm from Bigfoot. I wanted to clarify something from the article, because it raises a very good point. We are looking to show off some of the cards benefits by using an in-house built piece of software (because nothing existed before hand to test this). If I heard another company saying that too, I'd also be all kinds of skeptical. However, we're releasing the source code for that software to reviewers, so they can pick over it as much as they want to make sure we aren't doing any funny business with it (we aren't).
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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    id only see one advante in it, by passing the windows stack.

    so that i can download stuff and play games at the same time. But still £86 WTF?
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    so that i can download stuff and play games at the same time.
    You can do that with any non-crappy router with the appropriate traffic shaping rules.
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    Re: News - Bigfoot Networks launches Killer 2100 NIC

    What a joke of a product, latency is very much caused by the route packets take to traverse a network or in this case the Internet, the congestion of routers (hops) in the path and the bandwidth available on the links between them. The base device sending the packet initially really has minimal processing to put together the packet.

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