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High pre-order price no concern for would-be owners.
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WOW! I admire Apple's ability to enslave people
I just don't get this.....expensive, locked in, overhyped and not that great a product!
actually this is the first one worth actually buying!
At the time the screen on the original was crap, and it was never EVER refreshed, the distance between glass + display was also abysmal.
They also claim to have fixed the battery life.
Expensive? Probably, HTC will set you back around £400-£500 so not that much of a difference...Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dcandy
Locked in? Deffo but most people don't care, they are consumers not technology freaks.
Overhyped? A lot would argue all day long that featured are great, others would say they're about the same as on other smartphones.
Not that great product? Partially as above, sales/pre-order would prove most of people wrong?
My missus has one and she just loves it, I'd probably don't get one.
That doesn't actually make it a good product, it just means that the zombies were thrown a fresh 'half mangled body', and they couldnt resist.Quote:
Not that great product? Partially as above, sales/pre-order would prove most of people wrong
Actually, the iPhone 4 looks like the real deal to me. I am fervently Anti-Apple, i hate thier evangilistic marketing style and hate their lack of openness in development technology and i hate Objective C. I hate white. The iPad is stupid its only as capable as an iTouch iPod but you cant fit it in your pocket.
I work with phones every day its my job, and i have to say the Touch method is definitely the superior in the market.
I will be getting an iPhone 4, with the improved resolution, HD video play and Record, Touch, Wifi, Bluetooth, multi tasking (email polling and phone calling at the same time who'd have thought it possible), battery life. I am savy enough to not get locked to iTunes so im going for it.
I love how Apple haters seem to think they know best, it's beginning to do my nut in & I've writtten lenghty replies to these idiots then decided not to post as it's nothing more than trolling (IMO)
Some people (like me) get exactly what they need from an iphone & don't wait in line for days & pay stupid prices for them, some people do. Some people also pay £200 for a pair of jeans or whatever their favourite 'brand item' is, phones are no different so get over it. If the specs were no better than a Nokia 3210 then fair enough, but they're not, the specs are good there are just other phones out there with features/specs that are better (but then probably also have worse ones at the same time) plus you get the higher costs associated with a globally popular brand (as with any branded item eg clothes, phones, sunglasses, perfumes etc etc)
NB/
- Fanboys are just as bad as haters (for all products)
- I own an iPhone 3G & am changing shortly, I might get an iPhone4, I might get a Desire, I might wait for WinPhone7, it's my money & I'll do whatever the hell I like with it...
I'd actually like some advice.
I've been put off by the 3gs lack of a camera, SE lack of reliability, Android lack of apps.
The iphone4 looks perfect - just too damn expensive. If my needs in order were
1) Voice
2) Camera
3) email
What is the best way to go ?
If you work with phones for a living you should know that there are many on the market that have had those features for a while now with many doing it better (multitasking), the iPhone 4 is hardly groundbreaking. The single feature it has over competitors is a higher screen resolution, how much effect this will have is arguable, unzoomed web pages will be tiny on that size of screen for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Purple
Aside from the smug marketing and the dickheads I meet daily who whip their iPhone out thinking that they should instantly get some kind of respect for owning them (hello, Tesco sell them) the thing that puts me off about iPhones so much is the price, you pay high contract costs and then have to keep paying for those apps etc, it's an expensive business and don't think it's worth it...
You hate Apple, but you have been won over by their old school features that you could have had months/years ago from HTC or the like for a lot less money... errr OK.
Well, iPhones have never been known for great call quality. 'Android' is a tricky definition of a phone as there are multiple hardware configurations out there using it some bad, some good, some great!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phage
We know the iPhone 4s specs & they won't change for a year until iPhone5, as for Android, well HTC/etc could release anything at any time with killer specs so it would depend on your budget & when you want to make the purchase.
Can someone in the know clarify something? iPhone apps/iTunes purchases can be transferred when you get your next iPhone but of course not to any other platform. If you purchase something on Android is it locked to your phone or could you purchase a different phone from a different manufacturer & transfer your purchases over to it?
Ive never seen people queue for jeans on their first day of release!Quote:
Some people also pay £200 for a pair of jeans or whatever their favourite 'brand item' is
You are correct though, Fanboys are just as bad as haters. I hate the way people flock blindly towards Apple products, but I don't hate Apple products. I just wish people wake up and realise that there are other things out there, some better, some not.
I will shortly add this to my signiture.
Besides, Apple should have lost its 'cool' factor when they became popular. Now millions of people own them, it's not so wow. EVERYBODY has seen the lightsaber app - some people still think it's cool.
That's your opinion & you're entitled to it (although generalising millions & millions of users under 1 heading isn't wise & doesn't help your arguement)Quote:
Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle
The issue is this, many phones do certain things better, you're comparing 1 phone to hundreds of others, I'd be more surprised if one phone didn't do something better than it. You need to compare all phones to all others as a whole, would you say the Palm Pre is better than the iPhone 4 on the sole basis that it handles multi-tasking better? I'd agree with the statement "Palm Pre is better than iPhone 4 at multi-tasking" but I would say the iPhone 4 is a better phone.
You seem to say that a high res screen is a negative thing, would you say that if HTC came out with a phone with the same res? The specs could & in my opinion should be better for the price, but they're not, yet they still sell by the million, it offers a branded, pretty powerful, reasonably simple interface with thousands of applications/games/music at the touch of a button which is what a lot of people want, it is their decision to pay the premium for it.
There will always be idiots flauting their new phones & using them as a status symbol, as I almost-kinda hinted at previously that is the same for all branded products, those people wearing rubbishrubbishrubbish boots or driving a Ferrari or wearing Chanel No5. You just have to live with that, take the blinkers off as it isn't the sole realm of iPhone users to brag.
Very true, but you get the idea :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cameronlite
Do you know for a fact that they haven't done research, weighed up costs, compared hundreds of phones & decided the iPhone suits them best? You can't have as that's what I did when I bought my 3G, I rarely make impulse purchases, I get buyer's remorse far too often & when it came to a phone I researched for weeks before settling on it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cameronlite
True, kinda funny that! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cameronlite
Sim free HTC Desire £350Quote:
Originally Posted by spoon_
Sim free Apple iPhone 4 £499-599
So actually quite a large difference in price. But I still love the look/style of the new iPhone, just not the o/s & business model.
You can transfer purchases over to a new android phone that's a different make & model very easily via the google Market. In fact it's much easier & more reliable than the Apple way of doing it where I lost all of my paid for apps when I tried to restore the phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_B
Like I said I work with phones and get to play with most of them as they are released. I never said those features are new it is just that the iPhone 4 has now caught up with other devices and is on equal pegging in terms of tech and better for interface and consumables (both quantity and ease of distribution). Its not my fault that suddenly a company I dislike has suddenly made a product I do like.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle
Dont make me argue a point further please it makes me feel dirty to peddle Apple. Microsoft4Eva:stupid:
edit: Microsoft Mobile is terrible, terrible, terrible.