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    News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    A lowering of TDP means new revision of the six-core chip should overclock like a champ.
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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    Amazing achievement on 45nm.

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    I found this an interesting read:
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    The thermal design power (TDP), sometimes called thermal design point, represents the maximum amount of power the cooling system in a computer is required to dissipate. For example, a laptop's CPU cooling system may be designed for a 20 watt TDP, which means that it can dissipate up to 20 watts of heat without exceeding the maximum junction temperature for the computer chip. It can do this using an active cooling method such as a fan or any of the three passive cooling methods, convection, thermal radiation or conduction. Typically, a combination of methods is used. The TDP is typically not the most power the chip could ever draw, such as by a power virus, but rather the maximum power that it would draw when running real applications. This ensures the computer will be able to handle essentially all applications without exceeding its thermal envelope, or requiring a cooling system for the maximum theoretical power, which would cost more and achieve no benefit.

    In some cases the TDP has been under-estimated and that in real applications (typically strenuous, such as video encoding or games) the CPU has exceeded the TDP. In this case, the CPU will either cause a system failure (a "therm-trip") or throttle its speed down[1]. Most modern CPUs will only cause a therm-trip on a catastrophic cooling failure such as a stuck fan or a loose heatsink.

    Since safety margins and the definition of what constitutes a real application vary between manufacturers, TDP values between different manufacturers cannot be accurately compared. While a processor with a TDP of 100 W will almost certainly use more power at full load than a processor with a 10 W TDP, it may or may not use more power than a processor from a different manufacturer that has a 90 W TDP. Additionally, TDPs are often specified for families of processors, with the low-end models usually using significantly less power than those at the high end of the family.
    Odd about the TDP not necessarily being the maximum power draw. For laptops especially, if I buy a laptop, I want to know I can use it to its full potential (e.g. Folding, should I so desire, or perhaps more likely video encoding) without it dying in a horrific ball of fire and molten plastic because the cooling wasn't up to the actual power dissipation needed.
    Any idea what improvements they made to reduce the TDP? Or just by binning chips?

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    How did they do that??!! I wonder whats gonna happen when they go to 32nm

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    AMD will tell you it's a combination of improvements in the manufacturing process, leading to better yields, augmented by binning.

    Whatever else, six cores at 2.8GHz, plus Turbo Core, is pretty damn good.

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    The lower TDP didn't result in higher overclocks on the Q9550S.
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    We have one coming in soon. Will put it to the test and you good folk know.

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    The lower TDP didn't result in higher overclocks on the Q9550S.
    Same with the energy efficient athlon variants either if I remember correctly. But lower average power use is still nice if you're not a keen overclocker.

    edit: (some delay between writing and posting, sorry! Looking forward to the test)

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    either way I suppose it will save you some money, I cant wait to see the review

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarinder View Post
    We have one coming in soon. Will put it to the test and you good folk know.
    Yay, I've been waiting for this since I've noticed there would be a 95W version. Can't wait!

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarinder View Post
    We have one coming in soon. Will put it to the test and you good folk know.
    PLEASE DO!

    I'm still on a Q6600 mildly overclocked. It's the longest I've had a CPU in my main workstation - since 2007! - and it's been a champ. But between 3Delight and Ableton Live my requirements have risen and it just isn't enough any more. Previously the 1055T hasn't looked like such a good option purely down to power consumption. If this brings it down by a sizeable amount, I might just have to change back to AMD...
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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    Looks like I may go back to AMD and years with intel due to these, but my Q9550 is still going strong so no rush.

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Same with the energy efficient athlon variants either if I remember correctly. But lower average power use is still nice if you're not a keen overclocker.

    edit: (some delay between writing and posting, sorry! Looking forward to the test)
    Not just that. Some AMD motherboards can't take the 125W TDP processors. All AFAIK can take 95W TDP CPU's
    My girlfirends little mATX based PC could now take a 6 core CPU (not that I'll bother, mind)
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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    Not just that. Some AMD motherboards can't take the 125W TDP processors. All AFAIK can take 95W TDP CPU's
    Good point. I know there was a similar problem with the 140W CPUs.

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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    Quote Originally Posted by miniyazz View Post
    I found this an interesting read:


    Odd about the TDP not necessarily being the maximum power draw. For laptops especially, if I buy a laptop, I want to know I can use it to its full potential (e.g. Folding, should I so desire, or perhaps more likely video encoding) without it dying in a horrific ball of fire and molten plastic because the cooling wasn't up to the actual power dissipation needed.
    Any idea what improvements they made to reduce the TDP? Or just by binning chips?
    Not precisely, but for all intents and purposes, you may as well say TDP=E.

    Reducing TDP is basically a function of reducing resistance in the ICs, and there's numerous ways of doing that. Usually by shortening pipelines, improving efficiency of the transistor layout, and whatnot.
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    Re: News - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T now available with 95W TDP

    Ah right, thanks for the info

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