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    News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    A number of OEM presentations have found their way online, revealing Microsoft’s thinking behind its next OS.
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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    An app store for windows is a great idea, especially if they were able to integrate app updates and bug fixes with Windows Update. Put Java and all the Adobe apps on the app store and then they don't need their own updaters. Just let apple stand out from the crowd and annoy everyone with their own updaters as they would never go along with a MS app store.

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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    Yeah, that would be nice actually... although if they called it an AppStore I might be forced to vomit.

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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    The trouble with a Microsoft App Store is the lack of control Microsoft have over the devices with Windows. Programs that work with some phones will not work with others due to different hardware specs, even before taking versions into account. In fact I suspect I'm soon to run into issues with the Apple App Store since what I noticed previously is that apps written and updated for OS 3.0 would not work on my 2.0 (or previous) iPod Touch. This was all fine because I could update to 3.1. But since I have a 1st gen iPod Touch, I may not be able to upgrade to iOS 4 - therefore preventing me from accessing any new apps, once developers have adopted it.

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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    What have phones got to do with it?

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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    Whoops, got slightly the wrong impression there.

    In which case, having an App Store for PCs isn't inherently a bad thing IMO. There's nothing wrong with collating verified and trusted applications in one place - although I'm not convinced with its usefulness, as there'll end up being hundreds of thousands of shoddy applications similar to various free download sites today. As long as you can install things as you would normally, which it looks like you will be able to.

    My use for an App Store really extends only to mobile devices though. I'll have them with me most places I go, so I can put convenience apps/games on them - things which are harder to find via Google as I don't necessarily know exactly what I'm after.

    I'm pleased it doesn't look like they're attempting to shift to cloud computing too much. I'm much happier having my stuff where I can see it, and while there will undoubtedly be a market for basic computers that do everything on the cloud, that's not for me. I'd have to guess if they did do an OS geared for that, it'd be similar to a stripped down version of Windows 7 Starter though, and not intended to replace a fully-fledged OS, so I don't think there's really too much to worry about there

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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    No the problem MS have with an App Store is how to generate revenue from it.

    They have a back-catalogue they need to keep, in other words the app store can not be the only entry vector into windows (thou a policy for admin to set it would be useful!)

    Lets pretend I'm a major photographic software vendor, despite the spat i've had with a rival firm, I'm not willing to sacrifice as much as 1% for been on their app store. I will get better sales going direct. I also do not want to be listed next to competitors products. Good for the consumer perhaps because they might think they don't need my £500 software vs Paint.Net, they'll give the freebee a try and buy mine only if they need too. They will loose sales.

    As such many of their partners will want this to fail.

    So they can't charge much for listing on it, they will have to use nice big carrot and little if any stick to get people across.

    One thing they could do, is look at a complete advertising platform, for free add supported applications.
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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    Another advatnage of an app store type thing for windows is that if you format and reinstall, you just enter your credentials and everything you had before gets downloaded and installed. Job done.

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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    Another advatnage of an app store type thing for windows is that if you format and reinstall, you just enter your credentials and everything you had before gets downloaded and installed. Job done.
    And the disadvantage is when they decided to stop supporting it, they just withdraw it and you have nothing, and no right to get any money back.
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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    Also you can't re-sell it.
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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    Steam's worked.

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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    App stores also allow a very tight control of the platform, allowing the supplier to be a toll keeper on anyone supplying software for the platform. The next step would be to restrict access to signed only code, to stop any independent activities.
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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Steam's worked.
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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    I can't just image my PC as my C drive is over 500GB for now.
    Sure you can you just need a drive bigger than 500GB, those are pretty cheap these days.
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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    They could store free 'approved' apps to, I really like the software centre in ubuntu as an example so for ti to work liek that would be nice.

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    Re: News - Microsoft Windows 8 plans leak

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    Sure you can you just need a drive bigger than 500GB, those are pretty cheap these days.
    Did you miss the buy an SSD part of the imaging process?

    Storing an image of a 500GB HDD is actually no problem either since any half-decent imaging program will allow you to compress it significantly.

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