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    News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    iPhone 4 drives spike in demand for Apple, while HTC grabs the lead in Android phones.
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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    In the future consumer buying survey, Nokia are not mentioned. Are they claiming no one intends to buy a Nokia Smart device or have they completely forgotton about them and not offered Nokia as an option!

    Also I think the satisfaction survey is probably a little misleading. 75% of iphone users are happy. If I had been ripped off that much by a product, I doubt I would be willing to admit my dismay so quickly or easily (all about keeping face)

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster0101 View Post
    Also I think the satisfaction survey is probably a little misleading. 75% of iphone users are happy. If I had been ripped off that much by a product, I doubt I would be willing to admit my dismay so quickly or easily (all about keeping face)
    It's quite funny - you spend so much time criticising Apple fanboys, without realising that your rabid hatred for the iPhone makes you sound just as ridiculous as the fanboys do.

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    No he doesn't. He talks about how the numbers were obtained quite clearly in context.
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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    What? He implies that everybody who buys an iPhone is 'ripped off'. That is in no sense a balanced comment.

    Apple haters who repeatedly suggest that every single iPhone purchaser has been deceived by 'the shiny' into buying a useless device are so, so tiresome, and frankly quite insulting. Give people some credit. Almost nobody spends £500 on a phone without serious consideration of its flaws and advantages.
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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    This reflects how Apple and HTC are giving consumers what they want..whereas RIM and especially Nokia just aren't.

    Nokia have suffered massively in recent years with poor quality..gone are the days when you can buy a nokia and be guaranteed that it will work for the next 10+ years no matter what you do it it. Gone are the days when nokia led the way in terms of phone (and smartphone initially) software/UIs. Their hardware has got worse and worse, and their symbian has just got more and more unreliable every time I use it.

    Blackberry as stuck in the past imo with unimpressive phones..still on part with WinMob for business (unless you need exchange integration) but for the average consumer..they have nothing to offer.

    People want cool, touch screen, superficially customisable phones - and HTC + Apple offer this in spades for pretty much all consumer markets. Everyone else will be playing catchup for a long time imo.

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    Just out of interest how many go out and buy a new iphone for £500, then how many dont see the true cost of the phone when they get it on a two year contract....

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV]Trig View Post
    Just out of interest how many go out and buy a new iphone for £500, then how many dont see the true cost of the phone when they get it on a two year contract....
    This. It's not a £500 phone, it's (just) £30/35/40 a month (for two years).

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    I pay a hefty sum each month for my iPhone contract, but yes, it is worth it (to me). I know full well how much it will cost me over the duration, but I still see it as a good buy. The thing is never out of my hand, infact I barely use a computer any more because I can do just about most things I would do on a computer with it from the couch, or the van, or wherever I am. It's a great social tool, it's a great toy, the games are brilliant, and so on. - If I wanted just 'a phone' I would rock a Nokia 3200. I don't.

    I have never gotten involved in a debate, I am not a fanboy, I am simply one of the many people who have and use an iphone without feeling the need to defend or promote it at every given oppertunity.

    Brewster, you don't like Apple, fair play, each to their own, but no matter how much you hope and wish for them to flop... well... it's just not going to happen is it. What other company could produce a handset with such a monumental flaw, fob everybody off with a rubber case and come out smelling of roses? Seriously...

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    It is the saddest thing seeing Nokia losing so much on the smartphone.

    They were THE phone manufacturer and it must suck for them to see companies like Apple, HTC and Android with no history of phone manufacturing beating them at their own game (although the game has changed to more OS themes).

    But they at least they do the phone basics right (e.g. reliable phones calling) unlike Apple. In fact, they were THE first company to come up with an internal antenna for phones.

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    its quite common, a company gets big, they take their eye of the ball, management and low level management become entrenched.
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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattus View Post
    It's quite funny - you spend so much time criticising Apple fanboys, without realising that your rabid hatred for the iPhone makes you sound just as ridiculous as the fanboys do.
    It's even more funny the people that there are people that have a go at the people that have a go at the apple fanboys. Considering the apple fanboy stereotype is a hilariously funny theme, you should accept that people will always poke at the fanboys for fun (i.e. don't take it personally if you are one of the few sane iphone owners).

    I love to hear jokes about the fanboys, it make me and many others laugh.

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    Blackberry as stuck in the past imo with unimpressive phones..still on part with WinMob for business (unless you need exchange integration) but for the average consumer..they have nothing to offer.

    People want cool, touch screen, superficially customisable phones - and HTC + Apple offer this in spades for pretty much all consumer markets. Everyone else will be playing catchup for a long time imo.
    Not in agreement with this. Love the Bold 9700. Much prefer it to the iturd i borrowed for a while.

    Have to disagree with wanting touch screens, i hate them, much prefer querty! But at least we have choice at the moment - just have to hope the corporate percentage is enough to keep RIM in business.

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Barrichello View Post
    Have to disagree with wanting touch screens, i hate them, much prefer querty! But at least we have choice at the moment - just have to hope the corporate percentage is enough to keep RIM in business.
    You are not alone in this. Full on touch screens are all the rage right now, but there are still a massive amount of people that prefer a physical keyboard. A couple of my friends have BBs and love them because of the full keyboard. My better half would like one, but round about where she stays you see loads of neds with BBs instead of iphones.

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    Obviously not everyone will want touch screens..personally my idea phone would be a combination of the two - full HTC style slide out qwerty KB, and a touch screen for general use..basiaclly like my old Touch Pro but with a faster CPU, bigger screen and more memory.

    The vast majority of consumers do seem to want touch phones though, as shown by the sales figures. Clearly this is partly due to the manufacturers pushing them to people, but people do tend to want what they are told to want (if that makes sense). I think its a fair comment that those people who want non-touch phones are in the minority now, even though there is still a clear market there.

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    Re: News - iPhone and HTC zeal dwarfs BlackBerry’s appeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Barrichello View Post
    Have to disagree with wanting touch screens, i hate them, much prefer querty!
    How do you mistype qwerty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    Obviously not everyone will want touch screens..personally my idea phone would be a combination of the two - full HTC style slide out qwerty KB, and a touch screen for general use..basiaclly like my old Touch Pro but with a faster CPU, bigger screen and more memory.

    The vast majority of consumers do seem to want touch phones though, as shown by the sales figures. Clearly this is partly due to the manufacturers pushing them to people, but people do tend to want what they are told to want (if that makes sense). I think its a fair comment that those people who want non-touch phones are in the minority now, even though there is still a clear market there.
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